If there is a CBA and a rookie salary cap, the Pats will move up. If not…it will be the same old same old with BB, value vs talent. I expect if there is a shutdown corner as good or better as McCourty, or a DL that is a Wilfork, he will do anything for that type of player.
They’ll do what they do every year and trade down.
I believe they’ve traded up in the first round at least once to grab someone they wanted as well.
This case makes me wonder what is the Statute of Limitations for Sexual harassment in New York. Because, based on the reported info, they are past the Federal one…
dwolfe
4165
BB can just move draft picks into the next year. E.g., trade this year’s third rounders for next year’s second rounders.
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Rocky is a starter. For the Redskins, and he has been since day 1.
And Tryon is starting for the Colts.
Jarmon would have been a good pick, except he was picked to play DE in the 4-3. He can’t crack this lineup, because he’s just not a 3-4 DE or OLB. In hindsight, it looks like a bad pick, but no one thought the Skins would transition to a 3-4…as they’ve never played one.
Rinehart, Kelly, White, and Thomas were busts. It’s still too early to tell with Riley.
I’m projecting forward a bit - it seems to me that Rocky is on the way out.
Justin’s not a starter, he’s a role player: http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=bio&player_id=655
My frustration really stems from not having a core nucleus of young players outplaying their rookie contracts. I would hope one of these draft picks would be expecting a big payday from the Redskins, after emerging as a young star.
Frankly I think your outrage over this is just as silly as other people caring about the news itself, if not moreso. I see it as mildly amusing at most, but feeling bad for the Ryans makes no sense. Contrary to the attitudes in this thread, it isn’t the couple’s “private sex life” that got spread in the news - they made Youtube videos.
Sorry, but if you put your foot fetish on youtube, you aren’t doing it so you can have a private sex life. They are probably hot and bothered over this entire thing.
Rocky isn’t a good fit for a 3-4, so he’ll leave, but he’s a more than competant starter in a 4-3. He’ll go somewhere else and be fine.
Tryon started 4 games this year. So he’s a starter in the NFL. Full-time, no…but he’s good enough to start at least for the Colts.
Your overall point is valid; we just don’t have those young guys who become starters. You well understand that you don’t hit on every pick; the big problem to me is that we just trade too many of those valuable picks away for veterans who don’t apparently fit our systems.
If it helps, I can rationalize Thomas and Kelly; both were risks when picked. Kelly had an injury history, and Thomas had 1 year of success at Michigan State. You’d expect at least 1 to hit, but Kelly can’t stay healthy…and Thomas was a bum (though, predictably, the only big plays of his career came against the Redskins in that Giants game…).
If it helps, the Skins have recently developed some other guys who look promising, however. Anthony Armstrong looks like a find as does Brandon Banks. I’d also mention Ryan Torrain, but what good is a running back who can’t stay healthy?
So I saw that McNabb is trying to be professional about his benching and saying he’d still like to be in Washington next year, but I read a column that said Shanahan said McNabb would be welcome next year but only as a backup QB? So what really happened here? Seems so crazy.
Sarkus
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The whole thing is weird. Some reports claim that the Shanahan’s knew he wasn’t what they wanted as early as training camp, but if that was the case then why bother with the “extension” crap? McNabb’s agent also says that McNabb tried to suggest changes that would work better for him, including screen passes, but was shot down. The agent notes that the Redskins ran a lot more screens and did some other new stuff with Grossman last week.
I was a Shanahan fan going into this year but how he’s handled things has really made me wonder. There’s been a clear lack of professionalism in how he’s handled things with Haynesworth and McNabb (though Haynesworth deserves plenty of blame as well.)
Rimbo
4172
I’m not mad because I think it’s an invasion of the guy’s privacy; I’m mad that this is somehow deemed worthy of air time, that anyone would care.
I’ve made youtube videos, too; should they be broadcast all over the media? No, because they’re not newsworthy. But they’re more newsworthy than this is.
Get ready to spend the rest of your life simmering, then. Celebrities live in a fishbowl and the media doesn’t hesitate to report on things like this and apparently a lot of people are interested. I don’t see this behavior changing.
Tack McNabb and the Jason Campbell QB handling together, and I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with the Shanahans as well.
Campbell was cheap and could have backed up McNabb, but they dumped him for a 4th rounder.
The McNabb deal was smugly discussed as a ‘steal’ for the Redskins.
Both situations indicate to me that the Shanahans are entirely too willing to burn their bridges without a Plan B in place.
Rimbo
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Yeah, and lots of people are pedophiles and they’ll always be around, and “You will always have the poor,” and there will always be crooked politicians, and there will always be war and famine and disease and people just generally being dickheads to each other.
Just because it is pervasive and customary doesn’t mean it is somehow less wrong or that I have to like it.
Sarkus
4176
I was listening to Chris Mortensen on the radio earlier and he pointed out something about the McNabb “extension” that suggests he let Shanahan really screw him over. So yeah, the Redskins can get out of the thing by paying McNabb $3.5m. But here’s the kicker - they have until the start of the next regular season to make that decision. That means that McNabb gave up the right to decide where he wants to go next year and the Redskins can try and get a draft pick or something and decide where to send him (at least to an extent) or hold onto him so late that he can’t get acclimated with a new team. That’s pretty f’d up if they knew when they signed him that they didn’t want him after this year anyway, and it was pretty stupid of McNabb to sign the deal unless he had no idea what was going on.
A good starting QB, even if just for a few years, is a good get for a 2nd rounder. I’m not a big McNabb backer, but he’s good. And what is Shanahan going to do now? Draft one, I suppose, and then you have a rookie QB next year.
Maybe he decided the Skins are in rebuilding mode and aren’t ready to challenge the other teams in the division yet.
McNabb has been average at best this year (I suspect Campbell has been average, as well). And the Shanahans have poisoned the McNabb relationship.
Yes, the contract is amazingly team friendly.
But the fact of the matter is that the Skins haven’t settled the QB situation for next year.
If they had kept JC and Mcnabb, they could be drafting a young QB to develop - with two veterans competing to keep him on the bench.
Like this: http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/rosters.nsf/Annual/1974-was
Lorini
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Uh, Campbell has been the best player on the Raiders outside of McFadden. Several 200+ yard games, as well as games where he threw or ran for more TD’s than INT’s/fumbles. The Raiders thank the Skins very much. After Gradkowski’s horrible outing playing against a team the Raiders should have beat, they finally put him to bed, and Campbell has really shown. The fans are behind him too.
McNabb is basically getting what he deserves. Why the hell would he sign such a contract when he was already having problems with the team. Shanahan has him by the balls and won’t mind squeezing. Just stupid. McNabb is better than that ridiculous contract and better than the treatment he’s been given. Too bad he can’t see it. This is a QB that took the Eagles to a wild card game last year, something the Redskins won’t see until the Shanahans are shown the door.
The rumor was that the Raiders wanted McNabb but McNabb turned them down. I bet he’s kicking himself now.
The team that should have gone after McNabb is the Cardinals. I think he would have made the difference for them and they’d probably be leading the weak West now.
