sluggo
4461
I’m surprised the Dolphins appear so hot for Harbaugh. Couldn’t they get Cowher for that money? Personallly, I’d rather have a SB winner than someone who’s never run an NFL team before.
For better or worse the Fins want to keep Ireland and Nolan, and Cowher only wants his own guys and wants total control.
Name a Super Bowl winning coach who went on to win another SUper Bowl with a different team. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
I think the NFL has evolved to a point where you have to bring something new to a team to both win over the players and create a winning team. Going with a proven winner just isn’t good enough these days.
Now, if you want to know what coaches have gone to two Super Bowls with two different teams, that’s Don Shula, Dan Reeves, Bill Parcells, Mike Holmgren, and Dick Vermeil.
So that’s five head coaches that went to Super Bowls with different teams, none of which won with both. I know that the majority of coaches who take teams to the Super Bowl are great coaches, but it takes a lot of parts to come together to get that team to the top, and history shows that it’s incredibly difficult to recreate success with different parts.
Oh, I’m not disagreeing with you; just pointing out that five at least made it with someone else.
Lorini
4467
I think it’s much ado about nothing. Given the same money, would you rather have Gruden or Singletary? Cowher or Zorn? These decisions would be no brainers. Who cares if Zorn or Singletary haven’t won a SB, that doesn’t increase their qualifications for winning one. You need to get the best coach you can afford, whether or not they’ve won a SB is not necessarily relevant, I don’t care what Jerry Jones thinks.
Sarkus
4468
The Dolphins are being stupid in a lot of ways with how they are handling this. Like Harbaugh is going to want to be in the situation that Cowher and Gruden both turned down, a situation where the coach doesn’t have control. If the Dolphins ownership wants a big name, that’s the price you pay. And if they really want to replace Sparano, just fire the guy and tell Ireland to hire a new head coach. That’s how you do it if you are committed to a strong GM organization.
Besides, does Harbaugh really want to try and compete in that division? If he goes there it’s going to be just about entirely about money.
Gotta admit, though, that’s a Who’s Who of coaching, there.
It’s pretty much the Nick Saban situation – needs lots of money and total control and comes from a successful college program with some time as an assistant in the NFL. Meh.
I’d still wager it’s a lot more likely to result in success than going with some kid that has very little NFL experience and/or coordinator experience. McDaniels and Mangini came into a situation where they didn’t have nearly enough experience to justify their hires.
I’d avoid trying to hire coaches that don’t seem to have the fire for it anymore (which is a knock against proven winners); coaches with only college backgrounds (because the personnel situation is so radically different between the NFL and college these days); and coaches with minimal coordinator experience but that are on a hot streak.
That said, there’s no real rhyme nor reason, a lot of it is just leadership and other intangibles coupled with enough football smarts. There are guys that have been solid coordinators that flamed out as HCs (in fact, most failed HCs were in fact pretty good coordinators first), and there are good HCs that only had a couple years as coordinators.
Hell, there are good HCs that were pretty poor coordinators (Sean Payton had his playcalling duties pulled at one point by Coughlin, and Mike McCarthy was the offensive coordinator for the Niners when they had like the 33rd best offense in the league).
Lorini
4472
Rumor is that the Titans are trying to shop Jeff Fisher, so that another organization will pick up the rest of his salary in exchange for draft picks or some amount of money that’s less than what they owe him. SF was apparently contacted regarding getting them to pick up Fisher. This was reported from a website that I unfortunately didn’t get the full name of…profootball something(??).com
nixon66
4473
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2013861752_hawkqb07.html
Seahawks name Hasselbeck the starter for Saturday. Which makes sense, but I have a feeling that if he shows much weakness, that Charlie will be warm and ready togo.
There might be snow in the area on Saturday, which is the Seahawk’s great hope. Unfortunately, sounding like it’ll be North and South of Seattle.
Whitehurst didn’t show me much in the win over the Rams beyond an ability to scramble a bit. I think the Seahawks have a better chance with Hasselbeck in there.
Best nfl site on the web.
Probably Profootballtalk.com, the best NFL rumor site out there – I’ve been a steady reader for the last five years or so.
I’d love to hear that conversation:
“Hey, we have this coach here who really sucks. Want to take him off our hands and let him coach your team instead?!”
And the Dolphins keep Sparano…
Sarkus
4480
Yeah, an interesting turn of events. Maybe Harbaugh said no. So now it looks like Harbaugh either goes to the 49ers, the Broncos, or stays at Stanford, which reportedly has offered him a deal equal to the 49ers.
And other sources say that the Fisher rumor about him being “traded” isn’t true either. So far only PFT seems to have that story.