The NFL 2011 Thread

Aki · 2011-09-29T16:36:47.000Z

Matt Bowyer:

“Hey, Seattle fans! Your team sucks! See what your old flame is doing with his new arm candy!”

It’s amazing what a good QB can do when he gets more than .5 seconds of protection, isn’t it? I’m rooting for the Titans to do well this year because I’d love to see Hasselbeck get the ring that the refs stole from him in Detroit and I’d love to see Locker inherit a strong team.

Also… you’re the KC fan around here, right? The only team with a more anemic offense than Seattle?

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-09-29T17:59:07.000Z

Chiefs are my #2 team, behind the Redskins, as my Monday night idiocy probably showed.

Brandon_Clements · 2011-09-29T18:01:16.000Z

Lorini:

I get the stupid Charger/Dolphin game instead of the at least potentially exciting Raider/Patriot game, or even the Bronco/Packers game. Geez there are not many Charger fans in LA but that will never deter CBS. The Chargers are much more popular in Orange County, which makes sense given the proximity.

Apparently they’ve sold out the Raiders/Pats game, so there’s not going to be a blackout now.

Lorini · 2011-09-29T18:23:44.000Z

Brandon Clements:

Apparently they’ve sold out the Raiders/Pats game, so there’s not going to be a blackout now.

Nope, LA does not get blacked out, ever. One of the reasons why I don’t want a football team here, in fact the main reason. There’s no reason why CBS can’t split the LA and Orange County areas. LA County alone is 10 million people plus. If you look at the map, you can see they cut it off just outside of LA county. Dumb. People write in to the LA Times newspaper about it every week but that won’t change CBS’s mind.

sluggo · 2011-09-29T21:39:41.000Z

According to that map, it looks like LA/OC is actually getting the Raiders game, not the Chargers. Am I reading that map wrong?

Sarkus · 2011-09-29T22:13:38.000Z

sluggo:

According to that map, it looks like LA/OC is actually getting the Raiders game, not the Chargers. Am I reading that map wrong?

Nope. Chargers/Dolphins is blacked out because its not a sellout, which means LA gets Raiders/Pats now instead.

sluggo · 2011-09-29T23:53:13.000Z

So if the Chargers game sells out, that map will change? Is that info listed somewhere on that site (or anywhere else)?

Edit: Never mind, I see it right there in the key below the map. /slaps self

Sarkus · 2011-09-29T23:56:38.000Z

sluggo:

So if the Chargers game sells out, that map will change? Is that info listed somewhere on that site (or anywhere else)?

Edit: Never mind, I see it right there in the key below the map. /slaps self

It’s too late now, even if the game did sell out. NFL blackout rules require the sellout to be official by a specific time on the Thursday before a Sunday game. Teams can apply for an extension if they think they can pull it off, but in this case the Chargers did not do that and announced it would be blacked out.

Lorini · 2011-09-30T06:31:19.000Z

Chargers being blacked out has nothing to do with it. The only time we get Raider games is if they are playing in a time slot that the Chargers are not playing in AND if that time slot isn’t filled by CBS’s game of the week. Which works out to two or three times a year.

Wallapuctus · 2011-09-30T07:23:53.000Z

Lorini:

I get the stupid Charger/Dolphin game instead of the at least potentially exciting Raider/Patriot game, or even the Bronco/Packers game. Geez there are not many Charger fans in LA but that will never deter CBS. The Chargers are much more popular in Orange County, which makes sense given the proximity.

Lorini, there are ways to watch out of market games, using the Internet. Google can help. I do it all the time.

mkozlows · 2011-09-30T07:35:00.000Z

Wallapuctus:

Lorini, there are ways to watch out of market games, using the Internet. Google can help. I do it all the time.

Man, I couldn’t even figure out how to get a radio stream of last week’s Packer game over the internet. I found the stations that would be broadcasting it, but they were all “blacked out” for some reason.

Wallapuctus · 2011-09-30T07:56:52.000Z

lmgtfy.com

LMGTFY

That’s not to be snarky, just obfuscating the site so we don’t pop up on some radar. Btw this is totally not stealing, you’re just watching TV at a friends house. Including ads. So, it’s fine.

Lorini · 2011-09-30T09:20:35.000Z

Interesting…the Bills are only favored by 3 at the Bengals Sunday. Guess the oddsmakers don’t think much of the Bill’s previous opponents :)

CheesyPoof · 2011-09-30T09:29:20.000Z

The odds in a football game have nothing to do with what the odd makers think are the ‘true’ odds of a game. They just need to adjust the line so that there is equal action on the two teams. It’s more a function of what the betting public at large thinks of the Bills.

Lorini · 2011-09-30T09:43:38.000Z

CheesyPoof:

The odds in a football game have nothing to do with what the odd makers think are the ‘true’ odds of a game. They just need to adjust the line so that there is equal action on the two teams. It’s more a function of what the betting public at large thinks of the Bills.

Same difference. “Oddsmakers” are in fact the bettors but I was trying to save words. Oh well :)

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-09-30T10:29:02.000Z

sluggo:

So if the Chargers game sells out, that map will change? Is that info listed somewhere on that site (or anywhere else)?

Edit: Never mind, I see it right there in the key below the map. /slaps self

LOL

Yeah the blackout rules get weird in overlapping markets.

Sarkus · 2011-09-30T11:11:19.000Z

Lorini:

Chargers being blacked out has nothing to do with it. The only time we get Raider games is if they are playing in a time slot that the Chargers are not playing in AND if that time slot isn’t filled by CBS’s game of the week. Which works out to two or three times a year.

In this case it does have to do with it, though. If the Chargers were not blacked out you would be watching them. They aren’t so you get the Raiders game instead, which is the national game in that timeslot. So yes, the Raiders are not LA’s backup “home” team or anything like that, but a Chargers blackout does impact what LA gets to see.

Lorini · 2011-09-30T11:16:54.000Z

Huh? We won’t get the Raiders game, Sarkus. There was an LA Times article a couple of years ago that described exactly what I already posted. Chargers being blacked out has nothing to do with it. The national game in the timeslot is the GB game, which you could tell if you looked at the map I posted. You can also tell because the announcing team is Nantz and Simms.

EDIT: SIGH Ok Sarkus, they changed the map and now we are getting the Raiders game. I still don’t think it has anything to do with the Chargers being blacked out though, where are you getting that info?

Sarkus · 2011-09-30T11:30:51.000Z

Lorini:

EDIT: SIGH Ok Sarkus, they changed the map and now we are getting the Raiders game. I still don’t think it has anything to do with the Chargers being blacked out though, where are you getting that info?

Florio at Pro Football Talk has been posting about it all week as part of his reporting on potential blackout games. From the beginning he noted that Raiders/Pats was the “fallback” game in LA if the Chargers didn’t sell out their game.

sluggo · 2011-09-30T13:03:56.000Z

Lorini:

Huh? We won’t get the Raiders game, Sarkus. There was an LA Times article a couple of years ago that described exactly what I already posted. Chargers being blacked out has nothing to do with it.

EDIT: SIGH Ok Sarkus, they changed the map and now we are getting the Raiders game. I still don’t think it has anything to do with the Chargers being blacked out though, where are you getting that info?

It’s almost like we didn’t already cover all of this this one page back 12 hours ago.