The NFL 2011 Thread

Lorini · 2011-10-12T05:37:26.000Z

robsam:

Huh. I’m pretty sure Steve Young took over from an injured Joe Montana. Too sleepy to look it up right now.

Kind of, and I got the QB wrong anyway. Too bad there’s no strikethrough on QT3. Look him up on Wikipedia for the whole story.

Actually I got everything wrong in a way so I deleted the post. The real confusion is over when and why QBs take over.

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-10-12T06:07:57.000Z

Kurt Warner took over for a non-injured Matt Leinart in Arizona for critical drives, then a split QB situation, then finally an injury. That’s about 75% non-injury replacement.

Joe Gibbs juggled Doug Williams and Jay Schroeder during the 1987 season in Washington. Williams started most of the season and won the Super Bowl.

I don’t believe Kerry Collins was injured when he was pulled after the Titans were 0-5 a few years ago, and a much more mature Vince Young led them to the edge of the playoffs.

Wallapuctus · 2011-10-12T07:21:57.000Z

This is kinda cool:

ProFootballTalk – 12 Oct 11

On final play, Raiders had 10 men on the field

The day after Raiders owner Al Davis died, his team clinched a victory over the Texans by thwarting the Texans from the doorstep of the end zone on the final play of the game, as safety Michael Huf…

Mark_Asher · 2011-10-12T09:03:36.000Z

Going way back, Earl Morral took over for an injured Johnny Unitas and took the Colts to the Superbowl, where they lost to the Jets.

Lorini · 2011-10-12T10:04:11.000Z

Wallapuctus:

This is kinda cool:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/11/on-final-play-raiders-had-10-men-on-the-field/

And there ya go. Raiders only having 10 men on the field is just so Raiders this year. Stupid stupid mistakes. They are so fucking lucky. And this is consistently a coaching problem with the position coaches. These guys aren’t getting WRs covered and now they don’t send out enough guys to play. Looking at it, it appears they are missing a safety or a DB. What’s next, sending someone on the field who isn’t even in pads? Wouldn’t surprise me.

Scuzz · 2011-10-12T10:23:29.000Z

Hanacker:

Who called the eagles a dream team and why? The first time I started hearing it was being used sarcastically after they lost a couple, but everyone acts like everyone was calling them the dream team at the start of the year. Maybe I just missed it.

QB Vince Young referred to the team that way in an interview after they signed him.

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-10-12T10:26:49.000Z

Matt Bowyer:

Kurt Warner took over for a non-injured Matt Leinart in Arizona for critical drives, then a split QB situation, then finally an injury. That’s about 75% non-injury replacement.

Joe Gibbs juggled Doug Williams and Jay Schroeder during the 1987 season in Washington. Williams started most of the season and won the Super Bowl.

I don’t believe Kerry Collins was injured when he was pulled after the Titans were 0-5 a few years ago, and a much more mature Vince Young led them to the edge of the playoffs.

That is correct. Also Eli manning took over for Warner on the Giants when they were 3-2 and they made the playoffs.

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-10-12T10:28:33.000Z

Niners sign former GB WR Brett Swain to take over for the injured Josh Morgan. The interesting part is that Swain beat out TJ Houshmanzedah, Chris Chambers, Brian Finneran and some other dudes.

Wallapuctus · 2011-10-12T11:50:20.000Z

Lorini:

And there ya go. Raiders only having 10 men on the field is just so Raiders this year. Stupid stupid mistakes. They are so fucking lucky. And this is consistently a coaching problem with the position coaches. These guys aren’t getting WRs covered and now they don’t send out enough guys to play. Looking at it, it appears they are missing a safety or a DB. What’s next, sending someone on the field who isn’t even in pads? Wouldn’t surprise me.

Come on the 11th man was Al Davis.

Sammich · 2011-10-12T12:31:13.000Z

Bill Dungsroman:

That is correct. Also Eli manning took over for Warner on the Giants when they were 3-2 and they made the playoffs.

Also Dilfer taking over for Tony Banks the year the Ravens won the Super Bowl. They were 5-3 with Banks, lost Dilfer’s first start, then reeled off 11 wins in a row (including the playoffs).

Mightynute · 2011-10-12T12:36:58.000Z

Wallapuctus:

Come on the 11th man was Al Davis.

What moron puts a 112-year-old dead guy in their backfield? Bad coaching decision then.

CheesyPoof · 2011-10-12T12:42:17.000Z

Bill Dungsroman:

Also Eli manning took over for Warner on the Giants when they were 3-2 and they made the playoffs.

No. Eli took over from Warner, who started 4-1, when their record was 5-4 and coach Coughlin thought it would be best to bite bullet and throw him in there to get the experience. He went 1-6, only winning on the final game of the year.

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-10-12T13:32:11.000Z

Eli in New York was pretty similar to Jay Cutler taking over for Jake Plummer Denver in midseason and the season tanking. In Eli’s defense, while he had a horrible season that year, Kurt Warner was sacked by a few ghosts.

Woolen_Horde · 2011-10-12T13:42:19.000Z

Looks like the Seahawks are trading Curry to the Raiders. The Hawks get a 7th round pick in 2012 and a conditional mid-round pick in 2013. The Raiders get the #4 overall pick in the 2009 draft. Ouch.

Mark_Asher · 2011-10-12T13:47:21.000Z

Man, 7th round picks don’t even make the final roster a lot of the time. I guess the conditional pick is if Curry meets some performance milestones.

It’s not like taking Curry was a bad pick, either. He was high on everyone’s board.

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-10-12T13:52:52.000Z

Curry was supposed to be the most NFL-ready of all the picks. Everything I read back then pointed to him being the safest pick in the draft. I think everyone pointed at that pick and promised big returns for Seattle. At minimum, a solid starter. What a bizarre fall.

Lorini · 2011-10-12T14:38:54.000Z

The Raiders LB McClain hurt his ankle and wasn’t all that great anyway. Maybe this new guy can help the Raiders stop the run, something they couldn’t do before last Sunday.

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-10-12T15:09:17.000Z

CheesyPoof:

No. Eli took over from Warner, who started 4-1, when their record was 5-4 and coach Coughlin thought it would be best to bite bullet and throw him in there to get the experience. He went 1-6, only winning on the final game of the year.

Oh they didn’t make the playoffs with him until the following year? My bad, I thought he made it as a rookie.

Matt_Perkins · 2011-10-12T15:15:32.000Z

Lorini:

The Raiders LB McClain hurt his ankle and wasn’t all that great anyway. Maybe this new guy can help the Raiders stop the run, something they couldn’t do before last Sunday.

I was listening to the local radio today and they classified Curry as the biggest bust out of Seattle…ever.

Lorini · 2011-10-12T15:18:08.000Z

Matt Perkins:

I was listening to the local radio today and they classified Curry as the biggest bust out of Seattle…ever.

I thought that was Chone Figgins, right Sarkus? Or was that Milton Bradley?:) As you have probably heard, the Raiders have revitalized sagging careers in the past and I’m sure they plan to do so again with Curry. We’ll just have to wait and see.