DT1
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Crap! Schaub is out for several weeks. Prepare for Leinart!
I don’t particularly hate NFL fans, but it seems kind of funny to hear one set of annoying fans complain about another set of annoying fans. Oh God, I’m the new Brettmcd.
Mark, I’ve also wondered why Tebow is so off target. Maybe he gets a lot of balls intercepted in practice and he overcompensates?
One more quick observation that might help: people forget he looked confused and ineffective his senior year. It was obviously to a lesser extent, but it seems like the same demeanor. Oh, and his throwing motion actually regressed that year. Florida brought in some quarterback coach that made him even worse. Uncle Verne and Gary Danielson showed a comparison video/image early in the season.
Sarkus
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Rumors are that it is a LisFranc injury, which could mean “out for the season.” So a lot of Leinart possibly.
Oh no.
In the Yahoo! fantasy league, I’m starting Schaub, with Cassel as my backup. It had been Kyle Orton, originally, as the backup.
That sound you just heard was my quarterback position completely collapsing in on itself.
Sarkus
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Rex Grossman is starting again, should be cheap to acquire . . . ;-)
I don’t dislike Tebow, but I do find the whole Tebow-mania thing interesting.
He’s also in the NFL now. His college record doesn’t count for much.
As others have said, I got nothing against Tebow, he seems like a genuinely nice guy. It’s his fans and the absolutely undeserved mania around him that’s annoying, even when there is clear, objective evidence at his failings. It was like Rimbo going on and on about VY when VY was sucking, but because PacMan Jones was single handedly winning games for the Titans we ended up seeing this “VY is a winner!” thing too.
But at least that was just limited to Rimbo =)
Most QBs who are drafted and play the QB position have had their mechanics burned into their brains since childhood. Un/relearning the basics of the QB position is incredibly hard and I’m guessing incredibly rare, and I can’t recall a high draft pick with questionable mechanics somehow having them coached back into place. They either succeed despite iffy mechanics (Philip Rivers, Vick) or they fail, shitty mechanics in place (VY, Leftwich,Tebow).
You wish – anyone remember the Wuerrfel buzz, how he was just a winner and just needed a coach who could play to his strengths? Then he was picked up by Spurrier in Washington…and still sucked.
EDIT: Point being that college homers cannot separate college success from NFL success and assume lack of the latter is indicative of a flaw in the system/team, not the player.
And I say this as someone who was 100% on the Danny Boy bandwagon (since I’m a former Gator).
Hey way to conflate your own prejudices with what people have been saying in this thread. Now you tell me if a team can sustain itself for any length of time if the QB only throws the ball twice.
If he was doing that then I guess I really dislike him, because then he’s lying about being a virgin. Maybe you should research people a little better before white knighting for them.
I don’t watch much NFL, but it always seems like he’s getting obliterated by the talking heads who are former players and coaches. It was so bad for a while I couldn’t help being contrarian, hoping Tebow would succeed to spite them. But I sympathize with anyone sick of overdone media narratives. I guess that’s how the business works.
If they’re rushing for 300 yds a game, why not?
EDIT: Let me clarify, I’m by no means a Denver or Tebow fan, I just find all the nerdrage about him to be really odd. When Denver plays the Patriots in Week 15 I hope Tim Tebow throws 5 interceptions and gets sacked 10 times, but other than that I wish him nothing but success.
So a team can rush for 60 yards and air it out all day and that’s a perfectly viable offense, but a team with a diverse rushing attack has no place in the NFL is that what you’re saying?
If they weren’t having success on the ground they’d have thrown more passes. The week before at Oakland Tebow had 21 attempts for 124 yds and 2 TDs. I’ve seen QBs win Super Bowls with way worse stats.
Or, hey, if the defense scores on every play with an interception return for TD!! Because that’s totally likely in the real world. Then again, it worked great for me here:
EDIT: Let me clarify, I’m by no means a Denver or Tebow fan, I just find all the nerdrage about him to be really odd.
Yes, ‘backlash’ as a concept is totally weird and unknown.
When Denver plays the Patriots in Week 15 I hope Tim Tebow throws 5 interceptions and gets sacked 10 times, but other than that I wish him nothing but success.
Again, most people have an issue with the Tebow phenomenon, not with Tebow himself.
Except no one has said that.
No team has a season rushing average that low, but some do dip into the 70s. The only team with a season rushing total that low that didn’t end up with a losing record was Indy, and they had that Manning fellow. The rest of them are your Clevelands, your Seattles, your Carolinas. Of the top 10 rushing teams last season, only half made the playoffs and the 5 that did had a respectable passing game because, well, it is ludicrous to expect otherwise.
And I am definitely saying that a team that only runs the ball is not a sustainable offense, or someone would have done it already.
Oh, you mean like they did against the Lions? That didn’t work out very well.
BTW I end up pulling for Tebow as well because I don’t listen to the blithering throng of his supporters, I listen all day to sports radio which is full of Tebow haters. I like that he and the Broncos make no sense. It’s entertaining. It will never win a Superbowl. It might win a playoff game for a team in a weak division who would get to host a home playoff game. It will not do this year in and year out. If anything the game is too pass-friendly, why even try this unless (as in Denver’s case) you literally have no choice.
DT1
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Guess who is suddenly in your plans!
Lorini
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Looking at the remainder of the schedules of the teams in the AFC West, the Broncos have two winnable games against the Vikings and maybe the Bills. The Raiders have winnable games against the Vikings and the Dolphins, both on the road though. KC I can’t assess if they’ll win anymore games at all, someone else will need to step in :). Chargers only have the Dolphins, and maybe the Chiefs. So assuming the Raiders lose more games than Denver which might happen, then Denver would be going to the playoffs with Tebow. I don’t think it will happen unless Palmer goes down or the defense goes back to committing personal foul penalties on fourth down. (Note we only had two defensive penalties in the last game). Our running game is fine with Bush and will only get better with Run DMC back. Palmer seems to be finding his stride.
I really don’t care about Tebow. I don’t think a QB that completes two passes a game will last long in the NFL. I really do think that his NFL career will come to a close before he’s thirty and he’ll become the politician his fans would love to vote for.
sluggo
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The Chargers have neither of these teams on their schedule. They beat Miami earlier in the year and have already split their series with the Chiefs. You might have been looking at a different team’s schedule.
The Chargers remaining schedule is intriguing: Chicago, Denver, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Baltimore, Detroit and Oakland. You could easily see them continuing to be up and down the rest of the way (4-3? 3-4?), with the final game of the season against the Raiders deciding the division.
With reports that Cassel is done for the season, I think the Chiefs are done. And I think the best the Broncos can do is 7 wins, so I don’t think they’re in the hunt, either.
Contrai
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I was about to post the same thing!
