The NFL 2011 Thread

balut · 2011-12-11T22:56:40.000Z

Jason Pierre-Paul was a beast this game. Good thing, too, since the rest of the Giants’ D didn’t feel like showing up.

My current 2011 season QB rankings go:

Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Roethlisberger
Eli Manning

1 and 2 are pretty much set in stone, but the last weeks of the season and the playoffs can shuffle around the next 3 spots.

JonRowe · 2011-12-11T23:02:43.000Z

Tebow - The Movie

W_Wiley · 2011-12-12T00:44:57.000Z

Fus Ro Dah Tebow! It’s the missing forth word.

Hammet · 2011-12-12T04:43:58.000Z

After the refs did everything in their power to hand the Titans a win, Tennessee has decided to run with this conspiracy theory.

Classy. I do believe I’ve found myself a team to hate.

CheesyPoof · 2011-12-12T05:46:09.000Z

balut:

Jason Pierre-Paul was a beast this game. Good thing, too, since the rest of the Giants’ D didn’t feel like showing up.

My current 2011 season QB rankings go:

Rodgers

Brees

Brady

Roethlisberger

Eli Manning

1 and 2 are pretty much set in stone, but the last weeks of the season and the playoffs can shuffle around the next 3 spots.

I’m sorry, but there’s no metric in which Rapedherberger is a top 5 QB, except for sacks, but that’s not a good one.

Blackadar · 2011-12-12T08:18:18.000Z

CheesyPoof:

I’m sorry, but there’s no metric in which Rapedherberger is a top 5 QB, except for sacks, but that’s not a good one.

“Rapedherberger”

Thanks for making it easy for any rational soul to entirely discount your opinion.

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-12-12T08:19:46.000Z

CheesyPoof:

I’m sorry, but there’s no metric in which Rapedherberger is a top 5 QB, except for sacks, but that’s not a good one.

Wins.

Wallapuctus · 2011-12-12T08:22:52.000Z

He’s actually is #5 if you go by QBR, and remove the injured Schaub from the list since Schaub isn’t active.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&season=2011&seasonType=REG

And it’s Rapelisberger. The “her” makes it clumsy.

EDIT: Tim Tebow makes his first appearance on the Passing leaderboard this week. His stats aren’t that bad.

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng Rate
14 Tim Tebow DEN QB 96 198 48.5 18.0 1,290 6.5 117.3 11 2 57 28.8 56T 83.9

Sarkus · 2011-12-12T08:27:16.000Z

CheesyPoof:

I’m sorry, but there’s no metric in which Rapedherberger is a top 5 QB, except for sacks, but that’s not a good one.

No metric? Statistically he’s pretty close. #6 traditional QB rating (discounting Locker), #5 in completion percentage.

Brees, Rodgers, and Brady are clearly having the best seasons, but after that there is a group of guys who are bunched up in most categories and Roethlisberger is in that group.

Sarkus · 2011-12-12T08:30:53.000Z

Todd Haley just fired by the Chiefs apparently.

Lorini · 2011-12-12T08:31:12.000Z

Haley is out in KC. Wonder if Jackson/Palmer will follow? I think if the Raiders actually had a GM there would certainly be some discussion. Frankly Jackson better hope Soup gets well soon. Palmer is averaging over two INT’s a game; that’s ridiculous.

Woolen_Horde · 2011-12-12T08:35:31.000Z

Is there some kind of internal turmoil in KC? Did he lose the team? Cause it’s only his third year. In his second year, he brought the team back to the playoffs for the first time in FOREVER. This year, it seems like half of his starters are on IR, including the QB. That’s the kind of situation you normally give the guy a pass, especially if he’s the coach who brought you back to the playoffs in the first time in forever.

CheesyPoof · 2011-12-12T08:40:30.000Z

Wallapuctus:

He’s actually is #5 if you go by QBR, and remove the injured Schaub from the list since Schaub isn’t active.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&season=2011&seasonType=REG

And it’s Rapelisberger. The “her” makes it clumsy.

A technicality, I won’t allow it!

Sarkus:

No metric? Statistically he’s pretty close. #6 traditional QB rating (discounting Locker), #5 in completion percentage.

Brees, Rodgers, and Brady are clearly having the best seasons, but after that there is a group of guys who are bunched up in most categories and Roethlisberger is in that group.

Well, yes, you got me on completion percentage. Regardless, #6 is not in the top 5. ;-)

Lorini · 2011-12-12T08:46:16.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Is there some kind of internal turmoil in KC? Did he lose the team? Cause it’s only his third year. In his second year, he brought the team back to the playoffs for the first time in FOREVER. This year, it seems like half of his starters are on IR, including the QB. That’s the kind of situation you normally give the guy a pass, especially if he’s the coach who brought you back to the playoffs in the first time in forever.

Who knows. You would think he’d be given a pass with the situation he’s been thrust into. All they need to do is look at the Colts jeezus. The Colts have far more justification to fire Caldwell than the Chiefs do Haley but they’ve kept on with Caldwell.

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-12-12T08:56:29.000Z

WOOOOOOO TODD HALEY FIRED

Mightynute · 2011-12-12T08:57:26.000Z

The response in the office to Haley’s firing has been unanimously “Our long national nightmare is over!”

We’re a pretty fickle bunch here in KC. Now to see if we’ve still got Dick Vermeil’s number on speed-dial…

Sarkus · 2011-12-12T09:01:24.000Z

Mightynute:

The response in the office to Haley’s firing has been unanimously “Our long national nightmare is over!”

We’re a pretty fickle bunch here in KC. Now to see if we’ve still got Dick Vermeil’s number on speed-dial…

You still have Pioli making decisions. Welcome to the Josh McDaniels era!

Brandon_Clements · 2011-12-12T09:03:33.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Is there some kind of internal turmoil in KC? Did he lose the team? Cause it’s only his third year. In his second year, he brought the team back to the playoffs for the first time in FOREVER. This year, it seems like half of his starters are on IR, including the QB. That’s the kind of situation you normally give the guy a pass, especially if he’s the coach who brought you back to the playoffs in the first time in forever.

I don’t think THE HALEY and Pioli get along at all anymore.

Sarkus:

Welcome to the Josh McDaniels era!

'Cause it worked out so well in Denver. How long till we get ‘Tebow to KC’ rumors?

Mark_Asher · 2011-12-12T09:04:08.000Z

So the Chiefs and probably the Dolphins will be looking for new coaches. I think the Rams are likely to also. Good chance of the Colts, too.

The problem is finding replacements. So many of the coordinators who get promoted to HC end up not working out, and then your team spends three years getting nothing done. It seems safer to go with someone who has HC experience and has had success.

Jeff Fisher will land somewhere if he wants to coach again. Cowher could write his own contract. Gruden…does he want to coach again?

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-12-12T09:04:41.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Is there some kind of internal turmoil in KC? Did he lose the team? Cause it’s only his third year. In his second year, he brought the team back to the playoffs for the first time in FOREVER. This year, it seems like half of his starters are on IR, including the QB. That’s the kind of situation you normally give the guy a pass, especially if he’s the coach who brought you back to the playoffs in the first time in forever.

Todd Haley has been playing silly mind games ever since he got into Kansas City. In his first season, he benched the Chiefs’ then-best player on defense, Derrick Johnson, for no reason anyone could explain. Johnson himself had no idea. Haley went through four offensive coordinators in three seasons, with Charlie Weis taking a rare backwards move to go coordinate in college instead of staying with a playoff-bound Kansas City Chiefs team. Haley’s mastermind led to Jamaal Charles, the best running back in the NFL, getting 15 fewer carries than Thomas Jones, the worst running back in the NFL. Steve Breaston, clearly the Chiefs’ second-best option behind Bowe, rode the bench for weeks as Terrence Copper and Jerheme Urban stunk up the joint because Breaston said Haley liked to “play games” with his players, and Breaston knew since he played under him when Haley was the OC in Arizona. Haley’s boorish attitude was directly responsible for sending Brian Water, the best offensive lineman on the Chiefs and the last link to the best line in modern NFL history, over to New England, because he clashed with Haley routinely. Brian Waters, one of the classiest guys in the NFL and a guy Kansas City openly adored.

Haley had a public meltdown on the sidelines, calling Matt Cassel a pussy while Cassel responded, quite reasonably, fuck you. Haley was a great example of the coach as celebrity, a Josh McDaniels-type who knew he was a genius and ahead of the game, convinced he could outsmart the opposition with fantasies like Thomas Jones as a starting running back while ignoring the wunderkind sitting behind him.

Todd Haley is not the worst coach in the NFL (NORV). He is not the worst coach in his own division (Norv again!) and he’s not even the worst coach to be fired so far (Del Rio). He was better than the last guy the Chiefs had, Herm Edwards and his rampant insanity. But I will not miss him.