The NFL 2011 Thread

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-12-12T09:06:09.000Z

Sarkus:

You still have Pioli making decisions. Welcome to the Josh McDaniels era!

KC won’t get another Haley type. I don’t know who they’ll get – I’d love to see a Tomlin-type make it to KC, but I don’t immediately know who that is. Expect a Kansas City Star columnist to wish for Bill Cowher tomorrow morning, Thursday at the latest, since Cowher got a cup of coffee here once.

Blackadar · 2011-12-12T09:07:09.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Is there some kind of internal turmoil in KC? Did he lose the team? Cause it’s only his third year. In his second year, he brought the team back to the playoffs for the first time in FOREVER. This year, it seems like half of his starters are on IR, including the QB. That’s the kind of situation you normally give the guy a pass, especially if he’s the coach who brought you back to the playoffs in the first time in forever.

Besides that GM Scott Pioli (supposedly) hates Haley?

I’d say it’s the way they lost. They’ve got 8 losses and will miss the playoffs, but that might be ok for a team with injury issues. However, they’ve been blown out in 6 of those losses by a whopping 27 points or more. That’s just embarrassing…and you don’t keep your job if your team keeps getting embarrassed.

Mightynute · 2011-12-12T09:08:58.000Z

Charlie Weis can’t coach the Chiefs because we’d have to reinforce the sidelines at Arrowhead to accommodate his sail barge. I mean, “Rascal scooter”.

Brandon_Clements · 2011-12-12T09:09:13.000Z

Contrai:

Good thing Garrett doesn’t have any timeouts left.

Jerreh is not pleased. If the Cowboys don’t make the playoffs, I would not be surprised to see Garrett and/or Fat Lebowski gone.

Blackadar · 2011-12-12T09:11:29.000Z

Any bets on the next coach to be fired? I have Raheem Morris…something like 7 straight losses, many of them blowouts.

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-12-12T09:12:22.000Z

Mightynute:

Charlie Weis can’t coach the Chiefs because we’d have to reinforce the sidelines at Arrowhead to accommodate his sail barge. I mean, “Rascal scooter”.

Also, he is the coach at Kansas University.

Mightynute · 2011-12-12T09:12:51.000Z

Good! Get him as far away from real football as possible. The turd.

Sarkus · 2011-12-12T09:17:22.000Z

Mark Asher:

So the Chiefs and probably the Dolphins will be looking for new coaches. I think the Rams are likely to also. Good chance of the Colts, too.

The problem is finding replacements. So many of the coordinators who get promoted to HC end up not working out, and then your team spends three years getting nothing done. It seems safer to go with someone who has HC experience and has had success.

Jeff Fisher will land somewhere if he wants to coach again. Cowher could write his own contract. Gruden…does he want to coach again?

Brandon Clements:

Jerreh is not pleased. If the Cowboys don’t make the playoffs, I would not be surprised to see Garrett and/or Fat Lebowski gone.

You can also add other teams to the list. The list of teams potentially looking for a new head coach could include:

Jacksonville (already open)
Kansas City (already open)
St. Louis
Dallas
Miami (dead man walking)
Tampa (trainwreck)
Minnesota
San Diego (dead man walking)
Indianapolis
New York Giants (though last nights win improves Coughlin’s chances of staying)
Washington (the always mercurial Snyder)

Brettmcd · 2011-12-12T09:28:13.000Z

Sarkus:

You can also add other teams to the list. The list of teams potentially looking for a new head coach could include:

Jacksonville (already open)
Kansas City (already open)
St. Louis
Dallas
Miami (dead man walking)
Tampa (trainwreck)
Minnesota
San Diego (dead man walking)
Indianapolis
New York Giants (though last nights win improves Coughlin’s chances of staying)
Washington (the always mercurial Snyder)

I don’t see MN looking for a new coach this year, the failure of McNabb is a big part of what killed this season so I think they give the coach at least one more year with a full training camp with Ponder as the #1 QB.

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-12-12T09:28:54.000Z

Sarkus:

You can also add other teams to the list. The list of teams potentially looking for a new head coach could include:

Jacksonville (already open)
Kansas City (already open)
St. Louis
Dallas
Miami (dead man walking)
Tampa (trainwreck)
Minnesota
San Diego (dead man walking)
Indianapolis
New York Giants (though last nights win improves Coughlin’s chances of staying)
Washington (the always mercurial Snyder)

I bet the Giants keep Coughlin around providing they make the playoffs, which they very well might. Otherwise, yeah.

Sarkus · 2011-12-12T09:46:40.000Z

Brettmcd:

I don’t see MN looking for a new coach this year, the failure of McNabb is a big part of what killed this season so I think they give the coach at least one more year with a full training camp with Ponder as the #1 QB.

That’s what I would think, but you have to keep in mind that there is a chance one way or the other that they will have their stadium situation resolved soon and at that point starting over with a new coach might make the most sense. Especially since supposedly Frazier pushed the acquisition of McNabb over other reservations within the organization.

Bill Dungsroman:

I bet the Giants keep Coughlin around providing they make the playoffs, which they very well might. Otherwise, yeah.

I put them on the list because if they end up not making the playoffs I don’t see how he survives. Right now they are in pretty good shape, but that division is pretty inconsistent across the board so a Giants late collapse isn’t out of the question.

Matt_Bowyer · 2011-12-12T09:47:57.000Z

I’d add Andy Reid to that list. I’d say there’s a good chance he may go.

Brandon_Clements · 2011-12-12T09:59:59.000Z

Matt Bowyer:

I’d add Andy Reid to that list. I’d say there’s a good chance he may go.

I think they give him one more year. He’s gonna need a new DC though, and that might not be his pick to make.

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-12-12T10:08:54.000Z

Maybe these Sunday stats assisted in Haley’s departure:

KC’s total yards in the first half: 4

Distance Ryan Succop’s onside kick traveled: 3.5

Lorini · 2011-12-12T10:10:43.000Z

Sarkus were you being nice in not mentioning Jackson? If so, it’s ok you can put him on the list too, even if it is 99% my wishful thinking.

Mark_Asher · 2011-12-12T10:12:50.000Z

Andy Reid would not be out of a job for long. There are a lot of owners who would love to have someone with his track record.

I don’t see Synder getting rid of Shanahan yet unless he could get someone like Cowher. Same goes for Dallas. Jones would go for Cowher but short of someone of his stature I think he gives Garret another year. The Cowboys may yet make the playoffs, too.

Romo seems like the anti-Tebow. Romo teams find ways to lose. And weird ways, too. Imagine the kicker being iced two weeks in a row and making the first kick that didn’t count and then missing the second one. So weird, especially when your own coach ices you. (That’s still good for a chuckle.)

Bill_Dungsroman · 2011-12-12T10:14:05.000Z

Mark Asher:

Andy Reid would not be out of a job for long. There are a lot of owners who would love to have someone with his track record.

I don’t see Synder getting rid of Shanahan yet unless he could get someone like Cowher. Same goes for Dallas. Jones would go for Cowher but short of someone of his stature I think he gives Garret another year. The Cowboys may yet make the playoffs, too.

Romo seems like the anti-Tebow. Romo teams find ways to lose. And weird ways, too. Imagine the kicker being iced two weeks in a row and making the first kick that didn’t count and then missing the second one. So weird, especially when your own coach ices you. (That’s still good for a chuckle.)

I have traditionally been a Romo supporter but I have to say, he had Miles Austin wide open at the end there for the winning TD and he overthrew him by at least 5 yards. You can’t whiff on easy plays like that.

BennyProfane · 2011-12-12T10:22:46.000Z

Mark Asher:

Gruden…does he want to coach again?

I’d be willing to donate to a fund to convince Gruden to coach again, just to get him out of the announcing booth!

Walter_Yarbrough · 2011-12-12T10:29:05.000Z

Sarkus:

So close for the Redskins.

Since I don’t watch the games live, you get 24 hour delayed commentary from me, sorry.

This felt exactly like 8 of the Skins losses this year - hang close, but oh by god, one mistake (typically by Grossman) kills ya.

They don’t give up in games (the Skins) but they consistently play just well enough to lose respectably.

Edit: At least the Skins are finally mathematically eliminated from playoff contention and I can look forward to being 2012 offseason champs again.

Zuwadza · 2011-12-12T10:46:29.000Z

I suspect teams will be looking to poach Greg Williams away from New Orleans after this season. I know at least one team talked with him during the off-season. Personally I wouldn’t be that unhappy to see him go.