The scene in Zion where all Zionists are rocking out to that really cool song (which is by Fluke, by the way) seems to have been a focus point for hatred of the movie, or sometimes of the series of the whole. Practically everyone hates that scene. My question: Why?
This isn’t an attempt to defend the scene or the movie in general. But I found that scene to be fairly entertaining eye candy…which is how I viewed the rest of the movie as well.
It’s a transparent attempt to put some cheesecake shots in, with virtually no connection the narrative, and it brings the flow of the movie to a screeching halt?
Plus Morpheus’s voice sounded dumb. What, they don’t have amps?
It was too fucking long, much like the rest of the movie.
Plus, it had no point.
Much like the rest of the movie.
Jakub
5
I didn’t like much of Zion, and that rave scene ruined what I did like. Besides the scene being pointless, the demystification of Zion, like the resolution of Neo’s status as the all-powerful, killed everything my imagination was filling in.
Jobe
6
– what Jason said about Morpheus’s voice and that entire oration in general
– the cutting in and out to Neo and Trinity getting it on; I could never really grok that romance at all
– I don’t recall liking the song very much. “Look at me, I’m tribal!” <makes jerk-off gesture>
Fluke has a couple of good tracks off of Risotto, but the precious few without horribly laughable vocals have been really badly whored by advertising and compilation albums (atom bomb, absurd, another one I just recently saw in a car commercial, can’t remember the name). Their new album, Puppy, is forgettable also. I’m into more highbrow techno, and people with highbrow tastes have to look down on the lowbrow things of similar form, right?
– I don’t think I liked seeing the residents of Zion, the only “freed” minds, acting like kids on E at a rave.
– The entire idea smacked of “dude, raves are cool, let’s do a rave scene!!!” They haven’t been cool to me for a while, so this was a negative.
The first and only time I saw Reloaded, I immediately thought to myself after this scene was over, “that’s the first scene in a Matrix movie that I truly never want to see again.” It was the precursor of more bad things to come.
kaiju
7
I agree that the scene pandered to the audience, but I actually thought it was a good example of Zion’s rebellion. The scene’s one positive aspect was that it showed the citizens of Zion hanging on to their humanity–enjoying their sexuality, which is what separated them from the cold world of the matrix and the machines.
Jobe
8
Can’t you fuck inside the Matrix? So what if your heretofore unknown plugfetus self isn’t “really” feeling it? Yeah, the citizens of Zion don’t share their sexuality with the machines, but they don’t share their rationality either. At least they showcased that human-only trait of blind faith in a few central figures.
Oh well, I’ve just seen one (thousand) too many Ibiza-like things for one lifetime. I didn’t really expect to be watching “Zionists Gone Wild”.
Dirt
9
Neo needs Trinity.
It is through the Trinity that Neo’s existence has meaning, where he transcends human.
Prodigy
10
It’s the only bit of humanity, of warmth, that we are allowed to witness through the entire movie (some would say through the 3 movies). To me that scene is a depiction of the human race as something tribal and almost primitive, opposed to the cyber/technological look of the Matrix and of Zion.
bago
11
It was the best song that fluke has done in years. Can’t argue with that.
It has great progression, going from an ambient intro, playing with some tribal taiko drums for a bit, and smoothly sliding into housy techno. It would make a good opening for any set.
I thought it was pivotal for shifting the focus of the films to the real world and Zion rather than on the Matrix. That’s a big reason why I hated it.
I also kind of feel that the Brothers W had some secret formula that required them to end each of the first two films on idiotic what the fuck notes that forced them into corners in subsequent films.
The Rave scene is bad because it looks like it was plotted, concieved, and filmed by horny 16-year olds.
bago
14
You’ve obviously been going to the wrong parties.
Yes, and it’s like being hit on the head with a hammer by the filmmakers. Plus, it was boring.
We never even needed to see Zion. Zion was much more interesting being talked about rather than seen, something that was was almost a myth. It’s just heavy-handed filmmaking.
Yes, but Keanu Reeves and Carrie Anne Moss have absolutely no romantic chemistry. I understand the whole Neo and Trinity love angle from a storytelling perspective, but in practice it just didn’t work. It never actually seemed like there was a connection there.
It’s like the love interests in Pirates of the Carribean. Ya just didn’t feel it.
Jazar
17
Ugh. The rave scene as well as the sex scene were both bad, and they certanly didn’t improve by mixing them together into one confusing orgy.
Orgasms are just plain goofy looking… especially on Keanu’s face.
Dejin
18
I thought it was just too long. If it had been 1/3rd the actual length, I wouldn’t have minded it.
Strange to think that in order to show their humanity, they had to dance to machine music. Perhaps a choir would have been better. But you can’t flash your tits to that.
Apparently the Cat in the Hat has a rave scene. I have not heard of any tit-flashing in that, though.
