Schrödinger’s Seriousness.
Perun explicitly said their current estimated production is insufficient. This tracks with them buying shells from North Korea for example, and with the observed slackening of a Russian artillery fire.
Grifman
22054
It’s too bad that most people I run across lack a basic understanding of statistics. :)
Where are the one million men you said would be on the front by December? Are you aware that only 150k of the supposed 300k mobilized in the last wave actually made it to the front so far?
Grifman
22056
More armor may be on the way:
JonRowe
22057
I am not going to make an argument that some people’s predictions are very questionable, and probably wrong. Of course they are. We have all been very wrong in this thread at some point.
But it isn’t some binary discussion where there is a right or wrong. I maybe am not being articulate enough on this forum, but I am not saying “there is no such thing as evidence” at all. I am just saying this is all a very gray area. People should at least attempt to cite sources, but we should also keep in mind that during an active conflict there will be a lot of conflicting narratives and sources, and it won’t be until the dust settles that we know what was right or wrong in the end.
The UK government, US government, etc are far more trustworthy sources than anything we can get from Russia, but they are not sacrosanct. There is an agenda here, that our tax dollars are being spent the right way etc. They are not lying to our faces like the Russian government, but I guess I am just heavily skeptical of all sides in a conflict.
I am not arguing that there are no useful sources, just that being hung up on sources and asking for some sort of bibliography to back up every theory or question we raise is asking a bit much. There is certainly a person here could do a BIT more than they are currently doing, but I am not going to go crazy over it. We are having a discussion here not a dissertation with cross examination. (this goes both ways too)
I guess what I am trying to say is, history will prove who was right or wrong, and clogging up the thread every time someone comes in asking for “sources” when there really aren’t many good ones to go around is a waste of time. And, it is really easy to just scroll past a post you don’t feel like reading.
I think that “insults” are flying both ways in this thread.
Sources or the facts for an assertion are important. Otherwise we could have a 100 Russian bots just throwing up random claims. Like Russia has deployed a million soldiers or has no artillery ammo issues, contrary to other news sources.
If you’re just going to accept every random person coming into a thread to noise it up as A-OK, then you’re just inviting nonsense to proliferate.
Enidigm
22059
Just IMO but we’re all getting older and it feels like we’re starting to argue with Facebook in this thread.
I think it’s just your bias. I doubt you have a proper count of number of people who don’t understand statistics VS number of people you run across. Seriously doubt you can provide numbers proving it’s more than 50%.
If your goal is everyone’s ignore list, you should probably keep defending the Russian Propagandist.
That feeling when you see 84 new messages since last night and get excited that there’s big news, and it turns out to be just Janster trolling again.
Dejin
22064
Ukraine counterattacked at Bakhmut, pushing back Wagner, confirmed by Zelensky. That’s fairly big news.
Houngan
22065
Pretty soon Ukraine is going to look like a Road Warrior faction coming over the hill with all the different fighting vehicles.
Kind of funny you must not have even bothered to read the selection you quoted.
He said undoubtedly. Yet here you doubt.
I guess, though I’m pretty sure they’ve just been moving an imaginary line back and forth over Bakhmut for much of the war.
The Bradleys and Marders thing is reasonably good news, though.
My faith has been found wanting :(
abrandt
22070
The AMX-10 RC announcement from France too. Those things have a 105mm gun on them and seem pretty fast.
