Apparently nuclear waste storage tanks were getting shelled! So far things seem to be okay:

Also over in Kharkiv

A few items:
The explosion was the airbase fuel depot going up. That Russia probably wanted as a local logistical base. Whoops.

Russia shelled a nuclear waste depot. Not safe for crew to go out and check radiation levels until artillery stops.

Small arms fire heard in Kyiv - but nothing yet about massive artillery barrage or tank incursion - but still a few more hour still dawn.

Thanks for the updates on Kyiv. Gonna go watch a flick and hope the status is still quo when I get back. :)

Given the discussion of anti-tank missiles I figure you guy should appreciate this:

That’s probably a smarter move than my doom scrolling for news. I even bought Elden Ring figuring it might pull me away from my iPad. But no, I keep getting drawn back to checking on how things are going in Ukraine.

LOL! In addition to cyberattacks affecting Russian sites like Russia Today, OANN’s website is down!

about 7 more tweets.

I’m very much in David’s space. Sanctions are fine, weapons are even better, but it is past time to have the discussion what more we can do To me subjecting the Ukrainians to a decade-long occupation to let sanction work, or even a 6-month long purge of Putin’s enemy in Ukraine is not acceptable. I am willing to put up with higher prices, lower stock market, seeing twitter shut down, and all Neflix shows being replaced by Putin propaganda, maybe even lose QT3 for 6 months. I’m even willing to put with increased fear of nuclear war breaking out.

A nuclear-armed Russia and the US have been tangling with each other for 70 years. During that time we directly killed hundreds of each of soldiers, sailors, and airman and scores of each other civilians. Weapons supplies to each other proxies,in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and 1/2 dozen smaller conflicts have sent tens of thousands home in body bags. Russians have shot two airliners, we shot done one.
Russia pilotted MIGs Vietnam, plus manned MIGs sites in Vietnam, and Iraq for a dozen years and shot down numerous US planes. We in turn have killed Russian technicians manning SAM sites , and suspected weapons factories.

Our planes have buzzed each other ships, got into a couple of mid-air collisions and near misses at sea. We salvaged each other wrecks. Hacked each other computer systems.

This doesn’t count the unseen battles, special operations, directed energy weapons, assassination attempts, oh and lets not forget making Trump win the 2016 election. In short, the cold war has been mighty hot at times.

So, anyone who says categorically that if we do X, Russia will do Y, war will breakout, and nuclear missiles will be launched, has NOT been paying close enough attention to the last 70 years nor the survival instincts of leaders on both sides.

The chess axiom also applies “the threat is stronger than the execution”

They are giving the Russians some loopholes for SWIFT apparently.

How many times have we launched a full-scale air supremacy-gaining strike regime against airfields and other air defense assets on Russian soil? Cuz that seems…new?

In a lot of cases I suspect it will be worse - from the Russian point of view. The credit card payment will work, but the money will never arrive in the Hotel’s bank account.

Yeah, that’s an even better form of ‘not working’.

Good thread from the evil Frum. Credit where it is due etc.

Spitballing the various unsolvable problems Putin is going to find in trying to administer an unwilling Ukraine subject state.

Among the non-signatories to the 2008 UN Convention against cluster munitions:

  • Russia
  • Belarus
  • Ukraine
  • USA
  • Poland

Hmmm, you do make some good points. On the other hand, David Rothkpof does write for USA Today, so who are we to challenge his strategic wisdom?

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We have not, and it certainly would be the most challenging we’ve ever done. Russia has achieved air superiority over Ukraine but not air supremacy. Something the US did against Saddam far large air force with 3 days, (actually the Gulf War I last only 100 hour total).

This is not something that is going to happen overnight or even in a week or two.

But how to you propose to supply Ukraine with arms, if the Russians have air supremacy? It is not like Ukraine has is mountainous terrain, and you can use mules to carry everything you need

The Russian will blast supply columns from the air. I’m all for supplying Ukranians all the weapons they need, but not if they don’t make it into the hands of fighters.

I don’t know the answer to this question, but I don’t think the answer is “launch an all-out shock and awe attack on Russian air defense assets on Russian soil, and then blast all the Russian aircraft from the skies.” That’s what ‘no-fly-zone’ means, even if the journalists suggesting it don’t know that.

It’s a pretty big border to patrol with limited air assets, sending across supplies in individual vehicles instead of convoys would presumably be pretty successful. Somebody posted that long Twitter thread earlier discussing why this has been such a cluster for Russia and one of the things that discussed was the limited air recon abilities compared to the US. They brought this up in explaining why Russia hadn’t been able to wipe out air defenses, because Ukraine could just relocate sites between satellite passes.

Is it me or was it weird there was fighting over the Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe site?

Haha we captured Chernobyl, have fun with your fucking radiated wastescape.

In an ideal world that is what you like is to neutralize all air defense, but destroying Russian air defense based in Russia is overkill for what the goal is. NATO is trying to even the fight and prevent the Russian from using the airforce to destroy ground targets with impunity and effectively blockade and isolate Ukraine.

NATO fighter and remaining Ukrainian air defense need to make it too costly for Russia to conduct air operations over the front lines and behind. Yes, it means that Russian air defense, are going to able to shoot at our planes and if they are on Russian soil immune to attack. But even if Russian air defense, are ten times more effective than what the Israelis and the US faced in the Balkan and the Middle East over the last 30 years, we are talking scores of shot-down planes not hundreds.

(Same thing is true for NATO air defense forces operating from NATO countries)