4154

Think of following this thread as being your own journalist. You receive raw reports of information from people on the ground that may be pure propaganda, biased, exaggerated, or misinterpreted in some way. I think most people posting/reading here understands the information must be digested with that in mind, it isn’t for those who want a daily 10 minute summary of the wars update and doesn’t have the time or patience for rumours or speculation.

4155

I really wish there was a detailed briefing from the Pentagon. We can find little snippets of things of certain events online, but there is still an extremely poor picture of what the current situation is. Then you throw in lots of things that can’t be verified and it is frustrating (not that this is what is happening here), especially when we want to see Ukraine succeed. All I can really tell is that major cities seem to be holding, and Russians are taking losses.

4156

Great way to look at it; there’s tons of stuff flying around and I try to pick & choose but not only may it not be accurate, but perhaps it was at one time yet the fluidity of the situation makes it false by the time I read it.

4157

Yet one of the great things about this community is that while there might be mistakes, erroneous information, even outright falsehoods being linked, they’re being posted in good faith. People here are trying to keep the discussion open and honest as we’re all groping through the “fog of war”.

4158

The downside of investing in a dictatorship.

4159

I will rebump the os intelligence stream, which does some of the checking you probably already see on Twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/spaces/1vAGRkXDZQPJl?s=20

4160

I’ve been listening to them quite a bit over the past couple days, but still would like to see something more organized from the Pentagon of UK MoD.

4161

Yeah Twitter in itself is a new form of war reporting. The traditional sources (NYT, Grauniad) I still read but I’m also getting a lot of Ukrainian “sources” or propaganda feeding straight into my brain. Because I am rooting for them already it is kinda hard to be objective.

4162

I do too, but in the current climate it’s a losing proposition. Unless you get everything perfectly right down to the nuts, you’re going to get hammered by at least one side and maybe both. Holding pat and letting it play out while you do real government things on the back channel is probably the smart move.

4163

I broke in last night and had the head of Putin’s toothbrush up my ass for a full minute before I had to put it back and slide back out the window.

4164

See? Doing the right thing on the back channel.

4165

This is the most important difference for me. Thanks to everyone for that.

4166

I’ve been trying to retriangulate what I trust from Twitter constantly as things come out on more traditional media either confirming or proving as false previous Twitter items. Not sure how well that’s going especially since I see some things on Twitter that I so want to be true. For example, no idea the story behind the video of the tractor pulling a tank with a soldier running after but I absolutely want it to be true that a Ukrainian farmer pulled up and starting towing it away while the crew was distracted outside.

4167

I’m sorry I’m not always there to explain the objective truth about what’s happening. I also often do not post sources cause I read mostly in Russian and Ukrainian and it’s probably of little use to you.

Anyway the next morning (so in 8 hours or so) Ukrainian and Russian missions can discuss stuff on the border between Belarus and Ukraine. Zelensky said he has little hope something will be achieved here cause it looks like Russians proposed those talks in bad faith - Belarus participates in the attack but pretends not to. Also the leader of Russian diplomatic mission is Medinsky, an ex-minister of culture mostly remembered by how he forged his dissertation. Not a person with a lot of authority. It’s not clear why would Russia need those talks besides pretending to be a peace seeker; any ceasefire would benefit Ukraine, ending the war without achieving proclaimed objectives would be a disgrace.

4168

Saw that and told myself there’s no way it has that towing capacity, lol. Still, I desperately want it to be true, as well.

4169

I have no idea what he’s saying, but I want this on repeat

4170

My news sources, in order:

UK MOD
BBC News
Washington Post
NY Times
QT3

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I mean, this is the first real war in a country with a strong internet infrastructure. Makes reporting a lot easier. Iraq war was fought a little bit before the mass proliferation of easy cell phone video, and in a lot of areas without infrastructure for massive video uploads.

4173

Grifman’s posted an excellent link upthread about 2h ago with a decent summary I thought