Your memory is a lot better than mine!

I mean North Vietnam suddenly got a bunch of Russian SAMS and warplanes (and even Russian pilots), so it’s not like this is new ground. We gave the Mujahideen Stingers specifically to shoot down Hinds and it wasn’t anything especially crazy at the time.

Thing is if the Ukrainians had a Predator it likely wouldn’t make it long anyway. They sort of require air supremacy to be viable. And a lot of ground crew stuff the Ukrainians don’t have. Training, etc, etc. We could totally sell (give) them a couple and hope for the best, but it becomes a matter of RoI as these things always do.

It’s easy to find if you know enough of the quote. Also, I think I posted it a few weeks ago in this thread.

Right, but we knew very well that Russia and China were fighting a proxy war in Vietnam, we just didn’t push the issue. Russia is the crackhead dancing on the subway with a machete. We’re maybe letting him get away with some stuff just so it doesn’t go really sideways.

Ah you beat me to it!

A very worthwhile book for sure.

Gotta like this from SOTU.

Take away the word ‘Russian’ and I would reach socialist Nirvana.

Same.

I wonder if Russia’s retaliation for that will be to put the politicians they’ve been giving money to. Win - win

God that would be so delicious.

Santa Claus IS real. We’re due some good news guys…

I’m struggling to parse your sentence there. Am I missing something?

Basically he’s saying that if the politicians put Russia’s retaliation into the money they’ve been giving that will, he wonders.

I think he meant “out”, not “put”.

He’s putting the Russian’s money into the politicians they’ve been retaliating for.

Does anyone else smell toast?

Sorry, typing on a phone and still getting used to the iPhone keyboard. Basically was saying it would be interesting if they retaliate by making public politicians they’ve been giving money to.

I’d love that, personally. Preferably showing the receipts.

I think it is likely that it was all part of this same campaign, and was an attempt seed discord in the west before moving on to actual conflict.