Well at this point

If Russia is going to just invade countries because they express interest in joining it.

What is the point of NATO if countries can’t join it anymore without getting invaded?

I’d like this too, but I understand 1) their air power hasn’t been committed much/very well and 2) the Ukrainian air force is still alive and well & they’d be subject to this no-fly too.

I am just flabbergasted by how absolutely awful the Russian military has been. It almost feels like a joke.

It is increasingly clear that Russia is and always has been a paper tiger.

It’s perfectly clear from Putin’s statements this week that the invasion of Ukraine has nothing to do with the prior likelihood (or lack of it) that they would actually join NATO.

This one?

Not their artillery. It’s going to be really ugly.

We will see.

It’s interesting how much threadcop is going on here when the thread title is all about Russia being evil, not their invasion of Ukraine in particular.

Maybe we should make a Ukranian war update thread?

With the reasons to freak out from domestic politics- I’m more scared of Republicans than I will ever be of Russians.

It’s not so much threadcopping as it is seeing the same arguments advanced every day with no apparent taking of the counter-arguments into account. But maybe that’s a perfectly normal thing.

Some people want to talk and find out what is happening about the war, and the constant demand for no-fly-zones countered by the reasons against no-fly-zones, repeated about every 2 hours, makes that quite hard.

The answer probably depends on how the US midterms shake out.

From your lips to the Democratic Party’s ear.

Well, we’ve all been there.

We should declare a no-no-fly-zone!

no-no-fly-zone-zone?

Oops! Of course! Thank you comrade.

I declare a no-no-fly-zone-zone below this line and above the next line that I will draw later.

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What are you going to shoot down my no-fly-zone posts with?

Discussions of which pizza is best.

Uh oh, Tim called Dave’s bluff. Time to buckle up.

I think he merely threatened to call it. No buckling.

I’m afraid you’re going to have to escalate to a discussion about Gilmore Girls to get me to fold.