If nothing else, ‘officers’ must be a translation error. It surely means ‘soldiers’.
They’ve been targeting officers with their snipers so who knows.
1200 dead officers would be a lot, and 12,000 dead officers seems absurd.
KevinC
6620
I don’t think they were saying 12,000 dead officers but rather guessing 12,000 casualties based on 1,200 officers lost (1:10 officer to soldier casualty ratio).
vyshka
6623
I’d say they got a lot of shit still mothballed, but considering the shape their active stuff is in, I imagine their mothballed shit is all rusted out worthless hunks of scrap.
Curious to find out how well the APS-2 equipment has been maintained. A while armored brigade’s worth was pulled out for 3rd ID. We had something 6 divisions worth of stuff in the POMCUS sites during the Cold War. I wonder how much can be fielded from the APS-2 sites.
What would the english translation of this post look like?
vyshka
6625
APS-2 and POMCUS are/were prepositioned equipment sites the United States has in Europe, so they only need to get troops over there to match up with the equipment, instead of having to wait for things like the 1st Cavalry Division to be railed down to the port in Houston, shipped across the Atlantic, and then moved across Europe. Just a way for them to have combat effective units in place more quickly.
My question is I wonder just how well all of that has been maintained. I believe there are military and civilian folks that are supposed to keep them in good shape.
REFORGER put AFVs in Cold Storage until The Balloon Went Up, then USARMY units FLY to Europe ABOARD US CIVILIAN Aircraft that have been nationalized by POTUS.
Probably maintained pretty well.
FWIW today Ukraine’s army claimed 2000 captured/surrendered Russians so far.
They also claim they got a second General today (first one was confirmed, afaik), so yeah, those officers probably don’t feel safe:
So, that Buk not active or something, because it looks like the drone was above it.
Grifman
6630
This. He clearly says “total Russian losses”, not total officer losses when talking about the 12,000.
This is surely on the edge of plausibility. With desertions, captured and killed - it seems possible. But it’s hard to know. Ukraine is also fighting a propaganda war.
Sure. But 1200 officers would be a lot, and ‘estimating’ 12,000 total casualties from that strikes me as mostly guesswork? It’s certainly possible.
Grifman
6633
The shape of a future insurgency:
Grifman
6634
A potentially more sober view of the war so far:
dtolman
6635
The UA estimate is of 12,000 Russian soldiers KIA - which actually seems reasonable from the losses documented publicly on the front. The 1200 officers out of action from a single military district would be in line with that too.
I’ve seen total out of action estimates for Russia in the 30-50k range - 20-30% of their total pre-invasion force!
Yeah, that’s basically my feeling. usually starts terribly in war. But their sheer material numbers means they can suffer enormous losses and yet eventually steamroll their opponent.
