Papageno
20159
By “lost 77,950” do they mean KIA? That’s crazypants if so. Or does that include soldiers wounded and captured by Ukraine?
jpinard
20160
Good question. I’d guess dead or captured, because how would they know if someone was wounded enough to not come back to battle?
RichVR
20161
Very often MIA is KIA without documentation.
Calelari
20162
I seem to recall late summer reasonable estimates based off the numbers RU was actually admitting had the KIA around 20K. The 77K is likely total no longer combat-capable, whether because dead, missing or injuries.
jpinard
20164
Ukraine can’t sustain those kinds of losses like Russia can :(
I think they can, unless Russia chooses to go to full mobilization.
Janster
20166
This is kinda the points I was making earlier on, Ukranian losses are pretty staggering, yes they can absorb them but this is people we’re talking about.
Also, most of the losses in that 77k list, are Donbas and Luhanks men, who have been almost used up in these attacks, and those are the ones that look seriously ill equipped on the videos…
They all are ill-equipped. Also, Donetsk and Luhansk people at least had some training. For some time Russia had an influx of motivated and presumably able people who mostly signed up themselves. But now there will be more demoralized mobilized people, a lot of them are from the bottom of the barrel.
Well maybe Iran will send more cool weapons and save Russia.
Grifman
20168
Grifman
20169
Ok, I had to share this because when I first read it, I thought the poster was being sarcastic, but a quick check of their profile said otherwise:
dtolman
20170
Tankies are fascinatingly broken inside. Another choice gem from a week ago:
Ukraine is going to get smaller and smaller until there is nothing left.
The end of the war begins in a few weeks as the ground freezes.
Ukraine doesn’t have enough troops left to resist Russian reinforcements.
Russian army tried to mobilize a man who served as a cook on the Moskva ship. His mother still didn’t get a confirmation of his death since April.
I don’t really believe Russia has a lot of manpower to spare. Even if they had enough equipment to not send 60-year-old tanks into fighting.
antlers
20172
You are assuming Milley knows and would state an accurate picture of casualties. The 100,000 is a hand-wavey, order-of-magnitude figure, not an official US government estimate.
KevinC
20173
Just a little fluff to lighten a war thread. This is adorable.
Thrag
20174
Lots of villiage liberation videos from around Kherson this morning.
I don’t really see how you could possibly know this.
Ex-SWoo
20177
Considering that the fullsize of the Luhansk and Donesk militias were at an estimated 40k at the start of the war, even if we were to assume that number is now down to 0 the reported figures suggests approx half the war dead is now from the Russian army, with another 70-100k in wounded.
strummer
20178
You must have been “lalala-ing” when he posted this, but he has a friend who is a pretty good analyst.