Well in Australia, for example, there’s a compensation scheme via the Australian Lending Right Schemes (ELR/PLR) for books. Therefore, in many cases a public or educational library is okay because the copyright holder is being fairly compensated.
That argument seems reductive. You’re equating a single product making it’s way through many hands - one at a time - to distribution of unpaid copies to as many as want it all at the same time.
For traditional libraries and dead tree books, this is true. Today libraries often deal in digital materials. The licensing requirements for digital lending are often Byzantine, and it seems that there is no real consensus on how to move forward with a scheme that will satisfy everyone. If that is even possible.
Sure I get that. I was specifically addressing the assertion that a lending library of physical media at a workplace should be equated with piracy. Digital rental and the like is all beyond me.
I don’t see the problem, when you release something the Internet at large, for free, publicly, there is an implicit permission for people to save it, copy it, share it, etc. You don’t own it, beyond owning the authorship (ie who did it, credits wise). Yes, if you upload a mod to Nexus you can’t delete it, because that copy it isn’t yours anymore, same people can’t delete a local copy I have on my hdd. As long Nexus warns of the new rules, which they did, there should no be problems.
Indeed; it is likely to be an area that will keep lawyers employed for years to come!
Well, the Berne convention (and prior local laws) disagrees with that, which forces pretty much everyone to have a TOS that doesn’t force them to make sure every single cache is immediately cleaned. Which Nexus did have too, they’re just changing their enforcement for a very specific case.
OTOH, it’s funny if someone who released as open source/creative commons complains.
It is a reductive argument. But it’s also the exact same reductive argument the industry uses when they claim everyone who ‘pirates’ (that being, everything from piratebay addicts to friends loaning each other’s games for just a few days) directly equalling one lost full-price sale.
My point is more about what makes them so special that this twisted logic doesn’t apply. How come “Do not loan or make copies of this disc” applies to me and you but not these multi-million dollar studios? Are they really so hard up they couldn’t afford to just… buy each of their employees a copy of whatever ‘research’ game(s) they consider important enough?
Aceris
1906
But the industry largely doesn’t claim this.
I’ve seen some pretty convincing numbers to suggest that piracy does very substantially impact revenues.
This seems kind of a weird issue to make a big deal of. I hadn’t heard about this practice (though it doesn’t surprise me that it exists, especially in console dev), and I certainly hadn’t heard about games industry people not buying games because they could get stuff for “research”.
I’ve been in the industry nigh on twenty years. Maybe some suit at a big publisher has said something like this, but your average line dev doesn’t really espouse anything like this, so this feels misguided.
Because the people behind the site are Nazis. Ok, not literally Nazis, but I’ll refer to them as such forevermore. And there are a lot of people that agree with that assessment because there’s a very large secondary community that sprung up specifically because they’re Nazis.
Should you ever get an email from a Nexusmods mod they will be extremely rude to you, and they seem to know they’re Nazis because the message will self-destruct. Once you read it it’s gone.
Don’t worry, I’ve been assured by people on this very forum that rude, self-destructing mod messages are perfectly fine and I should get over it.
I take my petty revenge by continuing to use their site (what choice do I have?), ad-blocking the shit out of them, and giving money to that secondary community.
Yeah, definitely going to need something clearer and better documented than… whatever that was.
Possibly should be in a “The serious business of not making games” thread, given Atari’s recent efforts.
Looking forward to see exactly how much money they lost on the console in a few weeks.
Is that still the company that used to be Infogrames? I still have a soft spot for them since they published I-War and Independence War 2, and some other games I really liked back in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Nesrie
1914
Oh my lord. I mean I don’t really interact with the mod community much. Years ago I did one mod for Birthright, and that was it. I have seen a few arrogant mods out there, but I didn’t think that was Nexus’ reputation.
Nesrie
1917
Well that’s good to hear. Nazis is a very specific charge. Since Steam makes it easy, I do tend to stick to Workshop these days, but I do have a handful of mods I go chase elsewhere now and then.
