Re: Medic v Scout - neat. I love that I can still learn things about this game after hours of play. It also really is a dramatically different game with each class.
I think somebody asked this before, but in light of the upcoming update + free weekend it seems relevant again: are there specific servers the QT3 people like to play on? Somebody mentioned they’d mostly rolled into a couple other groups / servers since there’s no QT3 dedicated server, but I can’t remember which ones.
I think the updates will be rolled out friday, and as cedstick said, probably as late in the day as Valve can possibly wait. For us EST players I expect it around 10-11pm… though I’d like to be pleasantly surprised.
Scouts are pretty decent at taking out Scouts :)
Ahem.
FUCKING JARATE!!!
The greatest april fools’ joke ever, now in genuine update form.
I wonder if they really planned on it, or if popular demand was enough to make it real. Knowing Valve either is possible.
Short version-Jar someone, they take 35% more damage, but can jump in water to negate the effect. Spies will be unable to cloak while soaked, and you can throw jars at friendlies to put out flames.
Admittedly, the flames might be better.
Edit: Only now do I see the JZigish post. Autopager fail and/or paying attention fail. Oops.
Jab
3025
Do we have a QT3 TF2 steam group, playing last night again made me realize how bad I’ve gotten from months of not playing and could probably use a few qt3 games to get my skills back.
Well, medics really shouldn’t be going toe-to-toe with anyone. Scouts are a special case because you’re better served by warding them off rather than trying to run away.
I like the Jarate stuff, snipers spend so much time on the back lines… why not give them some nice defensive utilities as well.
I was really hoping for an update to the SMG, but I guess I will have to accept jars full of urine instead.
Kirian
3029
Apparently there is a lot of crying about how ‘immature’ this is. While it is a little bawdy, you’re playing a game where cartoon men enact serious acts of violence upon each other. It is pretty disgusting but in the context of the game, I can see why it is funny. The reaction of players hit by it is (presumably) exactly what Valve intended, and I only hope they’ve got new voice-work for people hit by it.
Plus it will lead to snipers chasing friendly players that are on fire screaming around the map.
My favourite line in the entire piece: “Jarate reveals its TRUE POWER: forcing your enemies to accept a terrifying new existence, where people do awful things to them ALL THE TIME for NO REASON and DIGNITY DOES NOT EXIST".
Immature? Come on, it’s TF2. People explode into tiny bits when hit on the head with a shovel. You fire lasers at people WHICH HEALS THEM. And it’s hilarious, class appropriate (who else has to sit there forever waiting on one shot?), and useful.
But especially hilarious, and the demoralizing effect is great. It’ll be a really fun psychological weapon like the Pyro’s fire has always been, one of those in-game things that makes players cringe in reality.
Also the complaints about immaturity are probably coming from teenagers.
I dunno. I think there’s a difference between immature violence and immature toilet humor. Sometimes the two are blended together (Ren & Stimpy) but, as far as I can think of, this is the first time it’s happened within the context of a TF2 game.
I think there’s a technical difference between the two, but I’m not sure there’s an emotional difference at all. Both center around laughing at someone else’s misfortune.
Yes, but then lots of things fall under that particular blanket. Some people think cartoon violence is hilarious while cartoon toilet humor isn’t. I’m one of them. The whole jarate thing doesn’t offend me or anything, but it also doesn’t even get a snicker out of me.
It feels a bit out of place in a game that doesn’t have any other cartoon toilet humor, too. It’s not a big deal, it’s just not ideal, either.
And I wanted a better SMG, damnit.
Why, I’d have never sussed that out by every post of yours since the sniper update announcement!
Really though, hasn’t there already been some “eewww” stuff already? Like “Your liver!” and “Your kidneys!” in killcam shots? It’s hard for me to say it doesn’t fit TF2, it’s silly, it’s got a certain “homemade” feel to it like most guns and such in the game do (especially the flamethrowers), and uh…hell, it’s throwing urine with FEROCITY, what’s not to love?
Even the best comedies often have a bit of toilet humor in them. It’s as though having an otherwise mature/sophisticated/intelligent comedy not only gives you the right to a little bit of lowbrow humor, it makes it funnier by association.
I just can’t wait until the game is updated tonight so I can get my hands on some of that urine (among other things).
The Steam servers are currently too busy to handle my request :(
For now, enjoy the update notes.
Maps
Added new map, Pipeline. Pipeline is the first map in a new game mode named payload race, which uses two carts in each map instead of only one like traditional payload maps
Added new arena map Sawmill
Added new arena map Nucleus
Added new community payload map Hoodoo
Updated Dustbowl to fix not being able to jump into the window in the first building of the second stage
Sniper Changes
Added new sniper rifle replacement, The Huntsman. Instead of a sniper rifle, you have a bow that allows you to move around faster while firing, and fire more quickly than the sniper rifle. Works better at medium range than the standard rifle
Added new SMG replacement, Jarate. If thrown on an enemy they will take more damage for short period of time. Also extinguishes flames on yourself or allies
Added new SMG replacement, The Razorback. Will protect you against a single spy backstab, and stun the spy for a short period of time. Comes with a 15% move speed penalty for the wearer
Standard sniper rifle now shoots through friendly players
Added 54 new Sniper voice lines
Added 35 new Sniper achievements
Spy
Added new revolver replacement, The Ambassador. First shot is very accurate and will cause a critical hit if it hits an enemy’s head. Accuracy is poor for a period after that
Added new watch replacement, the Dead Ringer. When armed, you will appear in all ways to die to the first damage you take from an enemy. You’ll be cloaked for 8 second after taking this damage. Upon de-cloaking you’ll make a loud, distinct sound
Added new watch replacement, the Cloak and Dagger. Your cloak meter is only depleted when you move, so you can stay invisible indefinitely if you’re standing still
Spy name tags now show up properly when disguised as their own team
Fixed a bug that would cause spectators to see disguise weapons incorrectly
Fixed a bug where enemy spies disguised as friendly spies would have cigarettes that didn’t burn
Fixed a bug where overhealing disguised spies would show the wrong overhealing amount to the medic
Made it more obvious on first person view model when your motion cloak is out of juice and you are partially visible
Also made it more obvious on first person view model when you’re bumped while cloaked
Improved the way your disguise weapon is determined to make it clearer and fix a couple of rare issues
Spies disguised as enemy spies now get a random mask to help complete the disguise, and their target id will be set appropriately
Spies disguised as medics now have an Ubercharge: line in their disguise target info
Spies outward facing “disguise health” now matches their disguise target when they first apply the disguise
Spies can now pick up health kits for their “disguise health”, even when uninjured
Disguise UI doesn’t show up in minimum UI mode (hud_minmode)
Spies that disguise as a player using an unlockable now show that unlockable in hand
Spies can now use enemy teleporters
Added 70 new Spy voice lines
Added 34 new Spy achievements
Scoreboard changes
Dominations no longer get wiped when teams switch sides
Dead players draw slightly darker in scoreboard
Converted class labels to class icons
All players now display the total number of people they are dominating
General
Fixed a bug that would cause the scout’s ball to regenerate at inappropriate times
Demomen can now detonate their stickies while taunting
Flamethrower’s air burst now extinguishes fire on friendly targets
Grenades and rockets deflected by a pyro under the effects of Kritzkrieg will now be criticals
The Heavy and Sniper now have new custom death animations
Fixed payload HUD not updating properly if you join in the middle of a match and the cart isn’t moving
Engineer’s dispensers now give 20%, 30%, or 40% of player’s max_ammo (for each ammo type) on each use, based on the level of the dispenser
Added -sillygibs commandline parameter which will allow the non-violent gibs to be enabled
Added a new taunt for the Kritzkrieg, which also heals for 10 points
Improved the deathcam camera handling used when a player plays a custom death animation
Added missing chalkboard and serverbrowser images for community maps shipped in previous updates
Removed “Final” from map names in the serverbrowser quick list
Servers
Added “sv_allow_voice_from_file” convar, which defaults to 1. When set to 0, it’ll prevent clients from using the “voice_inputfromfile” feature to broadcast wav files over voice
Enabled “sv_allow_wait_command” convar, which defaults to 1. When set to 0, it’ll prevent clients from using the “wait” command
Crater
3040
Speaking as someone who rarely plays a spy (and thus is jealous of people who can play them well), the spies really got the love in this patch.
Not only can they use enemy teleporters, but they got a huge boost in disguise ability. Maybe that’s a good thing, as I might finally not completely suck as a spy.
