4141

The days of them totally FREE updates seem to be long gone… Some of these new items can ONLY be purchased.

With all the costs involved in getting some of this gear ( I don’t want to idle for random drops), I now consider this game to be a $10-a-month War Themed Hat Simulator.

It also seems to me that the game is getting OVER saturated with weapons and hats, the release of a few hats here and a few weapons there was something special, now it just feels like a CASH GRAB. :(

Santa Gabe must need more $$$ for his HoHoHo’s. :p

4142

They’ve been giving us free updates for 3 years. I certainly don’t mind them making a little cash on it now if it means they keep the updates coming.

4143

Yeesh, feel entitled much?

I have to say, I’m not digging the new map or the melee only gameplay. The game is not designed for that.

4144

I do mind. When a game goes that route, it really tends to degrade the experience. I tried playing TF2 for the first time since it turned into a FTP MMO yesterday. The beta TF2 was a decent experience, but few played. The regular TF2 was a wasteland- with people begging for trades, advertising for DLC all over the place, just an annoying, aggravating experience. I’d trade in every single hat ever to not have to deal with that.

War Themed Hat Simulator indeed.

4145

Just stating a FACT.

The storm of begging and trading will calm down in a week, and TF2 will be back to its old crazy self.

4146

If Valve stops releasing new items, it will. Unfortunately, that doesn’t appear to be their intention. I want new maps, not items.

4147

That is it though. 3 years of free turning into paid DLC seems a bit unfair. They basically got us all into the mantra of “everything is free! Yay!” and stuck with that for a 3rd of a decade, and now that they have rolled out the microtransactions, you can pay for stuff.

Now, I am all for no sense of entitlement, but for a game that sang the Mantra of “free updates” for years, I can understand people being frustrated.

Seriously though, 30 bucks for the winter pack? Really? REALLY?

4148

I don’t get it. You’re still getting quite a few free updates and free content. The holiday themed maps are free. Almost all of the items still drop for free. They’re constantly patching the game for free. Is the issue that there also exists SOME paid content?

Also, the winter pack is the holiday items PLUS all the polycount items. So if my understanding of such things is correct, Jon, you need to edit your post to include only one “Really?” Though I think it can be the one in all caps.

4149

For me the issue is the pricing, everything they sell seems to be around 150% more than what I would think normal pricing would be for an item.

I thought the Winter Pack ($29.99 on SALE) was ONLY the Polycount items for the 3 classes (Medic,Demo, Heavy).

If anything good came from this update, is the buying of STAMPS, that let you show your support for user made maps. This I don’t mind, as I would gladly pay for a quality map , over say a hat.

4150

Interesting to see, 239 players so far have achieved the 28/28 Treasure Hunt Objectives.

http://www.tf2items.com/lists/wealth/

4151

Oops, my mistake. Looks like there’s 2 bundles. One contains all the items that go with the Medieval Australian Christmas update. That’s $30. There’s another one that has that plus all the Polycount stuff for $40. Neither seem to contain any of the Christmas themed hats, which I’m guessing come from the Winter Crates. Which I have two of and not much use for without spending $2.50 a pop to open them.

4152

I don’t mind that the micro-transactions exist or that the free items are random drops. I just wish that the trading didn’t take place in-game.

4153

They should make a trading map, for people to join and trade on. :p

4154

You’re also getting an inferior game experience to what you got before- with all the begging, distractions, and overkill.

It does feel a little bait-n-switch to me. It does make me less likely to buy future Valve releases, as I suspect this will be their future model. I don’t like games that rely on external rewarding- there’s a reason I don’t play MMOs.

4155

Here’s what kind of turned me off TF2 as of late.

It’s a huge mess now. Used to be you could sit down, play the game, have most of the weapons, etc. Now, you sit down, see weapons that you’ll never have unless you purchase, see all kind of special things you’ll never have unless you purchase and the core game…it’s become convulated. Each class so many different options, with the different weapons and special abilities, that I’m…underwhelmed. Not overwhelmed, underwhelmed. There is no class definition anymore. Sure, the engie is still the engine…unless he takes different stuff and becomes front line fighter…

Meh.

I’m playing Monday Night Combat instead. ;)

4156

Agreed. At this point, random games are about trading, farming, or begging rather than playing. Even non-random games have people that apparently spent $1000 on stuff or farmed for a zillion hours while most everyone else has the standard few items. This creates some strife as they always want to use their new toys rather than use the items that will benefit the team, or the have-nots will grind the game to a halt asking which items are those and how do you get them, etc.

4157

As much as I love seeing updates for TF2, I imagine it must be especially confusing for new players who didn’t see the items roll out gradually.

That said, Medieval Mode is ridiculously entertaining.

  • Alan
4158

The problem with Medieval mode is if I really wanted that, I’d just play Warband instead.

4159

Really? Having played both, they feel pretty different.

It’s like saying “If I wanted to play a RPG I’d play Baldur’s Gate 2 instead of Diablo II.”

4160

I did something this morning I never thought I’d do: bought something from the Manco Store. I had been considering it for a while when I had only one Winter Crate, and even got so far as checkout with 1 key in my cart for $2.50, but then the system told me I had to put a minimum of $5 in my “Steam Wallet.” I said screw that, because the price of unlocking one crate basically just doubled.

Then, of course, I got another Winter Crate, and I eventually thought "Eh, I guess I can buy 2 for $5 and it’ll be $2.50 a pop. So I plunked down my real five real dollars for five fake dollars, and bought 2 fake keys to unlock my 2 fake crates to get 2 fake items.

One was the Jag wrench for the Engineer, which is okay, but I was hoping for one of the Christmas items. The second was a duplicate of an item I already have. WTF? So, basically, in the end I truly did pay $5 for one item that I can get from a drop or crafting anyway. Pft. I’m never doing that again.