Reldan
4161
What is out there there can’t be crafted and must be bought?
Yeah I don’t like the crates at all… I wasted 10$ on 4 keys earlier in the week hoping for some of the winter items, no go, I did get a few weapons , so I did some trading with that and got all the new gear now. I wanted a Christmas Tree Hat, so I am just going to buy one, which is what I should have done in the first place, for $7.50!
I skipped buying lunch at work this week, to have cash to waste on a virtual hat :p
Strato
4164
Once I get the update for TF2 done, when I have my internet cap restored, it shall be backed up and deleted off my steam folder. I had the game at 999 hours according to steam, but then I had one last quick bash so it is now at 1005 hours. But yeah, TF2 just isn’t fun anymore for me. Between OMG Haxor! online drama queens, trading and the sheer content of stuff out there, I think I became too jaded to care, and too frustrated with some of the online personalities.
None of this is necessarily bad for the game though. Valve certainly deserve a lot of respect for the constant unpaid updates they’ve applied to this game. But not for me any longer. Talk about getting value for money though with that game.
I got one of these in a crate opened with my free key. I was so happy! My wife made fun of me, but it was worth it.
THIS.*
* - You know it’s bad when VG Cats is making sense.
I too finally had a crate drop and used my free Christmas key to open it. And it contained the vanilla Scout shotgun and a can of paint.
This does not inspire me to partake in the buying of future keys.
Did you uncrate a series 9? If that’s the case, you had a 99% chance of getting a paint. Paint’s worth something, at least. My first and last uncrate (with the free key) netted me a fists of steel.
I once watched someone on a trading server open ~40 crates without getting an unusual, then raged and started giving all his stuff away.
Crates only contain one item, and I don’t think Festive Crates had a chance at paint. Also, vanilla weapons never drop for anyone. This is a confusing anecdote.
Edit: You probably opened a non-festive crate, duh. Probably a S9 and got paint. Still confused about the scout drop.
Right. This is why I should never post without peer review.
Regular old Force A’ Nature shotgun in a non festive crate.
All of this is what changed about TF2 and makes it less fun for me. I barely know half of what you guys are even talking about. In game drops that require you to buy something to look at are very PoG terrority, and yet, people still buy in.
Pretty much as soon they added the store and started selling bullshit for serious money. I think I’ve played it not more than three times since then.
Do other people really like the system? It’s a huge turn off for me and I didn’t buy anything…
Some people with plenty of disposable cash do. Hell, people on this forum have bought crap for their XBox avatars. I don’t really like it, and so I don’t spend money there anymore (except for map stamps. Those are a neat idea) and am happy. I don’t understand this feeling that the store ruins anything about the game. Why not just not open the store page and play?
There’s a legitimate gripe about the playing field being unequal for different players, even absent the store, a gripe which applied as soon as they started offering unlockables. People who complain about that are pretty old-school though, as the leveling/equipment unlock systems in CoD:MW, Killzone, etc. are roughly analogous.
Alstein
4175
There is an option if you want to avoid the store crap- they the TF2 Beta instead.
I consider TF2 to have gone from the best value in gaming to a giant ripoff, and I will be much more wary of buying Valve games in future because of this change.
Didn’t you get X months of play out of the game before the store was introduced? Even if you consider the store presence to have changed the game into a “giant ripoff” shouldn’t you have gotten your money’s worth out of the game before then?
Yeah, I wouldn’t call TF2 a ripoff personally. I had years of fun from a product I got as a bonus to what I was buying (HL2).
On the other hand, the game as it now stands is not something I’m really having that much with anymore. Even if I choose not to buy anything, I still have to deal with people constantly trading instead of playing, WTB/WTS/WTT offers in my FPS chat, etc.
The game just isn’t as much fun now, aside from all of the fangled guns/toys I won’t get to own becaue not only won’t I play for hours now that others are so busy building their collections rather than playing, I won’t be buying anything.
Oh well. The ride was good while it lasted.
It’s really not so bad. If you play for a couple of weeks (or idle for a day) you can pretty much afford any item that has any gameplay effects. The exception are the initial 5 polycount hats which are moderately expensive, but Valve has pretty much admitted that they were a mistake and won’t be repeating that.
Trade talk can be a bit annoying in a game, but it’s never been overwhelming in my experience.
Also, I’m sure people around here can hook you up with dupes of weapons that you might be looking for.
aeneas
4179
My biggest gripe about TF2 is the size of the updates. I last played it in early december and attempted to play it again last night but had to wait 2 hours due to a 9gb!! patch.
I stopped playing after the store update as well. It probably sounds stupid, but one of the things I liked about TF2’s item system was that you could eventually get everything, even if you’d have to play ridiculous amounts of it. Once a game introduces timed sale or limited edition stuff, it pretty much kills my collection urge.
I don’t begrudge TF2 for trying new stuff since I’ve spent a lot of happy hours with free updates, but I’m definitely less interested in playing the game now.
