The Third Doctrinal War -- Stardock, Reiche/Ford, and Star Control

It’s back up on GoG. I guess they didn’t wait weeks before actually sending a counter-noticie like they appear to have done for the original takedowns.

Stardock’s PR efforts for SC:O continue to be, interesting. Every once in a while I search twitter for “Star Control” to see if there is any news there. Stardock’s promotions of the game there have been pretty few and far between. However their head of PR decided to take time out of his day to reply to a random tweet from almost two months ago about the original takedown to strangely gloat over the game being relisted with a “sorry, not sorry” gif.

This is what their Public Relations Specialist thinks is a good use of their time? Attempted point scoring against random twitter users? Does the company intentionally hire people whose emotional development ended in middle school?

Anddd it’s back off of GOG now. I didn’t even know it was off Steam again, unless he’s just dumb and think they’re talking about when it was taken down in January. But if you go to the GOG page right now, it’s gone. Still up on Steam.

It really was up again earlier. I wonder what the hell is going on.

I can just imagine the guy at GOG whose job it is to put it up and take it down.
“You want it down again? sigh
“Make up yer goddamn minds”

Yeah I even made a post elsewhere that it was back up, but well, as you can see, I was very elaborately being pranked.

EDIT: I mean, if it was being DMCA’d like Wardell claimed, then it has to be down like at least a week or something? Seems awfully fast for it to get brought back up in a day. The bringing-back-up mighta been a mistake.

I think the answer to all those questions is: yes, apparently.

Anyone know of any genuine updates to this saga? God help me I’m living vicariously on this madness!

DIdn’t you read Derek’s amazing inside scoop that he advertised last month?

Did he dish it yet? I thought he only hinted at something.

No, Mike is just gloating about the earth-shattering news not materializing. Which is of course fun, but is it really worth the risk of Derek returning?

Derek never left.

The real Derek is inside us all.

Ewwww.

Unless there’s some big event that changes things drastically there is unlikely to be much activity that we can see for quite a while. The trial date is now pushed back to 3/23/2020. Discovery doesn’t end until 7/31/2019. Experts need to be designated and their discovery complete by September. At some point this year we’ll probably see motions to dismiss or for summary judgement show up but it’s not clear when they would be decided on.

This is the latest order regarding the schedule.

If you want another legal mess to fill the void there’s the Blizzard+Valve vs. uCool vs. Lilith three way over infringement of DOTA2. Though there isn’t much current activity on it, its been going on even longer than this case.

Also, for an example of a totally different spin on copyright (namely, not having any), check out the ongoing back-and-forth between Jason Rohrer (who puts all his games in the public domain) and the team that’s porting it to mobile for profit!

http://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5479

This sort of thing kills me.

Wow, Rohrer really comes off as a complete tosser in that discussion. I really don’t know what his mental model is here. Release everything to the public domain, disclaim any trademarks, and then start making absurd demands and whine about how he’s being defamed and his legacy is being destroyed.

He really should have done something akin to the GPL rather than straight up public domain. There’s always someone willing to take advantage.

That’s not “taking advantage”. It’s literally people doing what the license [0] was designed for, and what Rohrer claimed he wanted! Allowing anyone do anything with the code/assets with no attribution or any other strings attacked is the only reason to use PD or something like a 0-clause BSD. If he wanted to avoid confusion but allow remixing, just keep the trademark. If he wanted attribution, use a MIT license. Want no commercial uses? CC BY-NC. But he didn’t want any of those, he wanted it to be PD.

Reading that thread further, it just gets more absurd. A page later he’s complaining about how the free trial version of the app is causing him financial harm, since people don’t play the game for very long so the trial version is enough to sate them. A page after that he files false takedown claims in the all the app stores, claiming copyright and trademark violations since “there was no fraud or libel checkbox”.

Oh, and that issue with PD not actually having the effect he wanted? He’s got a perfect solution. A new “public domain except for the mobile app developers” license…

[0] Yes, yes. PD is not actually a license. You know what I mean.,