The war on marijuana


#61

Also, you are buying your weed from a shady guy who is pushing other drugs.


#62

Exactly. Regulate weed the way you do booze–including home brew/grow–and the incentive to involve yourself in criminal activity drops just as when they repealed Prohibition, the incentive to be a bootlegger or join up with Al Capone or whatever sort of fizzled, too.


#63

I believe, and I am not 100% sure, brewing beer at home is legal in all 50 states now. So really growing marijuana should also be legal, and is in most the states that made it legal. There is a limit of how much and strict distribution rules… don’t think you can sell it in any state without some sort of license.


#64

Or at the very least he knows a guy.


#65

Yay, go Charlotte! (Not really.)

Can we get recreational legalization here already? If nothing else, maybe we can push some of the tax revenue to our education system here they seem dead set on killing in the state senate.


#66

Newsweek: Getting High: Willie Nelson Wants Jeff Sessions to Smoke Some Pot and Leave Stoners Alone

“Jeff Sessions recently said that pot is ‘only slightly less awful’ than heroin.​ I wonder if he’s tried both of them,” Nelson said. “I don’t think you can really make a statement like that unless you tried it all. So I’d like to suggest to Jeff to try it and then let me know later if he thinks he’s still telling the truth!”

Sessions has also said “good people don’t smoke marijuana.” As the nation’s top law enforcement officer, he could signal a broad crackdown against both recreational and medicinal uses of the drug, which remains illegal under federal statute. According to Governing magazine, marijuana is currently legal in 26 states, as well as in Washington, D.C. Several more states will soon join their ranks.


#67

I have the solution: a drug lottery! You buy chances to win drugs and the money goes to schools (not really, it actually gets redirected into pretty much anything else). Two birds, one stone, yo.


#68

That “good people don’t smoke marijuana” comment is the most telling part of Session’s idiocy. It pretty much affirms that the entire anti-weed campaign is purely cultural, and utterly devoid of any scientific, medical, or even practical underpinnings.

Oddly, you don’t hear people like Sessions saying “good people don’t get drunk and beat their wives,” or “good people don’t suck down martini’s at business lunches.”


#69

Actually I have heard variants of those here in the southeastern US.


#70

I suppose there is still some of the old temperance fervor lurking about, though usually grossly hypocritical. I grew up in the South and man, it was party like hell six days a week and got to church on Sunday to get Jebus to forgive you, then do it again, for most of those folks.


#71

After thinking of it, I had an even better thought: Being the first state to legalize recreation marijuana, but all tax profit went to off setting costs for single payer healthcare in the state. Boom, checkmate, anti-pot people.


#72

Quite honestly, I don’t think that has changed? Perhaps just less people going to church to ask Jebus for forgiveness these days.


#73

I didn’t grow up in the South so maybe I’m seeing the post-partying age group. Very much of a temperance attitude in some circles.


#74

I hesitate to say this, at the risk of sounding arrogant or, God forbid, condescending (because that’s farthest from my mind), but I’d be very skeptical of the temperance attitude. I really doubt much has changed since my youth in that regard. Folks always put on a big front about “demon rum” but drank like fish all the same. I’d bet dollars to donuts that that is still the same.


#75

It’s a class thing. “Good people” don’t drink beer in public. Wine might be ok at a fancy celebration but even then it might be frowned on. Certainly some of these same people drink in private or with small groups of friends. Or they will admit to a much wilder past. But they tailgate with Coke, do business lunches with sweet tea, and they go fishing without beer.

Drinking, and weed for that matter, is a failing. Good people might be weak sometimes but only bad people want to make it common and openly available. Pure temperance.


#76

Hmm, ok, I’ll buy that. It is indeed a throwback to the WCTU/Progressive (irony of ironies) WASP mentality of the late 19th and early 20th century, which was in turn a derivative of the Second Great Awakening a century or more earlier.

It seems to me too that these folks assume their attitude/belief is a ground-truth, rather than what it is, which is a class-based, religiously influenced, and very specific cultural norm that supports a very particular social and cultural (and hence, political) hierarchy. It’s purpose is ultimately to equate social and political groups opposed to their agendas with sin, while equating those who agree with them with virtue.

It’s the same idea that’s been used by the right forever to demonize anyone who disagrees with their Social Darwinism, really. Pretty much zero of these folks, as far as I can tell from my own observations which of course are limited, are politically progressive or liberal. Virtually all are reactionaries.


#77

Because the 2017 alternate reality isn’t weird enough.


#78

I wonder if you can get comped some weed in a casino? “Give me a whiskey and water and a one-hitter.”


#79

Even though it’s completely legal here now, weed’s still officially a big no-no in the resorts (not that that stops visitors), and will probably stay that way as long as it remains federally illegal.


#80

That case in Pennsylvania where those guys killed four young men they lured at various times with promises of marijuana deals should point out to people yet another reason why it’s utterly insane to keep weed illegal. If people didn’t have to consort with creeps and thugs to get their weed, you wouldn’t have such things going on as much IMO.

I imagine we could find examples during Prohibition of people being killed after being lured with illegal hooch deals, too, but no, it’s only the devil drug mar-ee-yuana that is bad.