The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

#7416

Well, let me just join you then! Finally getting around to the expansion packs, and I’m marvelling again how amazing this game is. The visuals, the style, the narrative - everything is just awesome!

Finished HoS and even though the battles weren’t that challenging and I wasn’t levelling at all, I still loved my time in the game. Seriously, I’d be happy to just play the stories without any upgrade treadmill at all.

Really looking forward to B&W now. Have heard good things about it!

#7417

KILLED THE DAMN TOAD

#7418

That’s the fight that lets you know: Hearts of Stone is no Witcher main game.

#7419

Ah the memories of rage tossing my controller on that fight.

#7420

Hah! I always remembered you guys talking about him so my proverbial loins were girded for battle. I must have fought him about 40 times over the last three weeks, experimenting with various potions and oils and signs and I just couldn’t get his health bar lower than 70% or so. Ultra-discouraging.

Tonight I loaded an earlier save, changed my sword and a few pieces of armor, repaired all of it, and added runes to all open slots. After that, much to my surprise, I killed him on my first try! Just fought patiently and dodged a lot and eventually finished with two health potions to spare. It helped to have a sword that did actual damage.

I didn’t expect to wind up imprisoned in a ship’s hold afterward! Love this game.

#7421

The Toad. I actually had whatever that sign is - Yrden? - where it shoots bolts and slows down the enemy maxxed out and a lot of runes for it, so I shot those out, and everytime he stepped forward he got zapped and that created new zaps, and IIRC that made him a pretty easy kill. In fact, that sign maxxed out with the max runes for it made just about every boss battle like that pretty easy, it was really overpowered.

#7422

Either you were playing on a difficulty level too easy for your ability, or you don’t remember correctly. ;)

#7423

Probably the latter. I was looking in my text messages to my brother who was playing the same game at the time and I see a message from him asking how to kill the Toad. My reply to him at the time:

“I maxxed out Yrden with all of the runes, I’m not sure how I would have handled him otherwise. That gave me a lot of hands off distant hits to whittle down his strength while I tried to dodge and hit him and get out of range, but it still was a battle. But I don’t think I would have EVER killed him without Yrden maxxed out AND the rune that creates new “circles” every time it zaps the enemy.”

#7424

Yeah, the Toad was my signal that I hadn’t done enough to max my potions/oil recipes and needed to get busy on that. I’d basically just forced my way through fights until then.

On my next playthrough, going to play a more difficult level overall going forward, so like you I’ve got runes, oils, etc. maxxed for that fight. :)

#7425

I played Griffin class to max out my signs strength, and Yrden was my go to sign. Maxxed it out plus worked my tail off to be able to purchase the runes for it. Once I had Yrden completely maxxed out and the rune that creates secondary circles every time it zaps, I had some bosses where I sat back and set my yrdens up and just watched them unable to move because of the non stop zaps, getting weaker and weaker. I think a lot of people underestimated just how OP that sign could be.

#7426

I only played the main game, but I remember maxing out the sign tree and working on the main combat tree. I think I put not a single point in the potions tree.

So next time when I replay the game from the beginning and play the expansions, I’ll probably max out the potions tree to see what that’s like, and go with the sign tree as well, of course.

#7427

I don’t remember how I beat the Toad… I think it was spamming the fire spell with tons of dodge roll, because the fire stopped the regen. I think? It’s been a long time. But once I found the right combo it was pretty straightforward after muscle memory developed.

#7428

I stopped messing with potions VERY early in the game. I decided I’d get back to all of the collecting etc. for potions once I got to a point in the game where I needed them. And I never did.

#7429

From a pure min-maxing point of view, the Alchemy Tree is by far the strongest later in the game once you know enough recipes. Having 3 Flasks up permanently is borderline completely busted.

But you don’t need to min-max to win by any stretch.

#7430

There are 4 really tough fights in HoS. I would put the Toad at either the 2nd hardest or 3rd hardest, depending on whether you figure out the tropes of one of the other fights.

There are also several tough fights in B&W, but I say that while playing on blood & broken bones difficulty. I don’t remember it being so tough on the normal setting.

#7431

The toad for me was just a bunch of IGNI(paying attention not to ignite gas clouds too close) and endless dodging. He has a clear pattern like most bosses. Only occasionally swiped with a sword. Not exciting just very methodical.

#7432

I got back into Blood and Wine again and fought the big bad. Was able to get through his first form fine, but I couldn’t make any progress in his second form for awhile. Tried everything to neutralize the bats since I wasn’t able to dodge them and didn’t think it was even possible to. Once I found out that I could in fact dodge the bats, it was still damn hard, but I was able to take him down. I did get 2-shotted when he was in the 3rd form once. Neighbors were probably awoken at 3:30AM by a loud expletive.

I remember that toad being a total pain in the ass too. Loved the Hearts of Stone expansion, definitely my favorite part of the game. In the main game and Blood and Wine I had more of a tendency to get side-tracked on other quests and lose the plot a bit, but HoS kept me engaged the whole time.

#7433

To always avoid Detlaff bats you gotta run sideways, not dodge or roll.

#7434

Curious what people chose with the researching Witcher mutations after finding the research lab in Blood and Wine. They look powerful but are big investments with 2 ability points just get first one. All three look good.

#7435

It’s a big investment, so I did the toxic blood one just to get an extra slot. I’m not sure I’m going to have enough ability points to open any more before I finish the game.