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I’m not convinced by the Cyberpunk thing. A lot of my W3 enjoyment came from its open country. Does anyone see much of that being likely in a Cyberpunk setting? Open country is neither cyber nor punk.

Take GTA V. Replace all the cities with '80s Tokyo replicas instead of '10s LA ones. Done.

And more seriously, it’s not like the genre has historically been locked to a pure big city aesthetic. For example it doesn’t get much more cyberpunk than Hardwired from Walter Jon Williams, and that was about thugs jacking into rocket-powered stealth battle cars and doing smuggling runs through a depopulated midwest.

Fingers crossed.

I’m actually even more stoked for Cyberpunk given everyone’s opinions about Witcher 3, just because I’m way more of into sci-fi than fantasy for the most part. Still planning to play W3, just need a few months downtime to devote to it.

Need for Speed: Wasteland

Or… RAGE :/

Please… no…

Not that…

+1 and stuff

Tying this back to TW3, I’m curious to see if CDPR can create interesting and believeable characters in a cyberpunk universe without the benefit of novels and European myth to fall back on. That universe is even more tropey than fantasy is.

Yes, good point. Given that Bethesda and CDPR will both have a fantasy and an SF series, it would be the good outcome if Cyberpunk made FO4 look silly. The bad outcome would be if the reverse happened :)

At the same time, Cyberpunk is an already existing universe (pretty much like the universe of the Witcher) with rulebooks, campaigns and tons of lore already existing.

That’s a good point. W3 has more depth for me that comes from reading the books than it would have otherwise. There are relationships and backstories I bring to the game from my knowledge of the books that flesh out some interactions that might seem pretty shallow otherwise.

So was Fallout for the most part.

I don’t think a good or great Cyberpunk game would make Fallout 4 look “silly”. The game stands on its own, both good and weak parts. If it’s silly, it’s silly because that is what it is, not because of another game. Personally, I love Fallout 4 and I hope I’ll love the new Cyberpunk game. We have tons of fantasy games, I’d love to see more sci-if RPG’s.

My comment was in response to Time James. CDPR will have the benefit of even more material than for the witcher, instead of having to rely on novels they will have all the published docs from the RPG. If anything, there might be too much material.

Re:fallout, what do you mean? I was not aware fallout was directly linked to an existing pen and paper RPG? If anything, if was a second take on the wasteland CRPG.

If you’ve never played a Cyberpunk game and aren’t familiar with that world, any recommendations on a couple of books that are good reads but also do the best job of familiarizing you with the lore/world/backstories?

Fallout had an existing universe, history and backstory when Bethesda took it over. But nothing nearly as deep as the Witcher.

Patch 1.12 live.

http://wpc.4d7d.edgecastcdn.net/004D7D/mkt/document/Changelog-1.12-ENG.pdf

Lost of fixes. These two are huge for me:

•Introduces UI enhancement whereby herb name is now displayed above available interaction.
•Introduces enhancement whereby ingredients required for a pinned formula and in possession of a merchant are now highlighted in said merchant’s Shop screen.

Wow that last one was sorely needed.