The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

[Squee]

Wow. This WILL hurt sales.

I’m all for removing DRM and try to convert pirates in a more friendly way, but having the game out and playable a week before actual legit copies is NOT good.

With so many aching to play the game, then have the only option for a whole week being a pirate copy will work as an incentive to pirating.

Is there even a reason for this week of wait since everything is ready? It’s like they are shooting themselves in the feet.

You can’t play it, it apparently still phones home to activate. Crackers may dick with it to get it playable before the release but they also may not even bother since the phoned home activation is the only DRM it has so if they want to wait a week they don’t even need to do anything.

[HRose]

You have to put yourself in our shoes. It’s irritating when someone shows up at random to point out a small fact that doesn’t apply to our existing conversation.

So, who’s exactly dictating what are the allowed and disallowed arguments about a game? The thread title is “The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt”. A normal person thinks everything that relates to the game is a valid argument. Whether it is graphic, length, gameplay, story, release date, box content or whatever else.

The problem here is that the “existing conversation” = singing praises because you want to spend your money with a big smile, instead of having doubts.

You’re all convinced that bandwagoning equals legitimacy.

[rhamorim]

Crackers may dick with it to get it playable before the release but they also may not even bother since the phoned home activation is the only DRM it has so if they want to wait a week they don’t even need to do anything.

Crackers can’t make it playable because the exe included with the preload is a placeholder. The real exe will only be released on launch, or maybe to PC reviewers if the game is provided to them before launch and someone leaks it, which seems less and less likely.

In fact, I’m pretty convinced that, if some review exe leaks (supposing it is provided before launch), CDPR will just turn the key and release it to customers. The last thing they want is for pirates to have the first-rate experience, and they’ve made it clear multiple times. It’s also the reason why all review copies so far have been PS4 debug disks.

[HRose]

You can’t play it, it apparently still phones home to activate. Crackers may dick with it to get it playable before the release but they also may not even bother since the phoned home activation is the only DRM it has so if they want to wait a week they don’t even need to do anything.

Then it shouldn’t be a problem. Usually crackers need at least access to a working copy to see how it works. If there isn’t a working copy then I guess release date is safe.

[rhamorim]

You’re all convinced that bandwagoning equals legitimacy.

And yet you’re bandwagoning with the “detractors”, grasping at straws, barely checking facts (when they seem to confirm your prejudices), as if you’re the selected few who know the truth. Hmmmm.

[farfrael]

I wish putting somebody on the ignore list (no prize for guessing whom) would completely hide their messages. Not show “This message is hidden because abc is on your ignore list”.

GoG servers are holding well so far for me for the download speed.

[rhamorim]

Yeah, game is preloaded and installed for me already. Now I just have to wait for CDPR to push the button and hope it will run OK in my PC, and that I’ll be able to enjoy the game.

[rhamorim]

HRose, here’s a thing you might appreciate: I’m listening to the Witcher 3 soundtrack now, and, while it’s good, it doesn’t have (for me) any songs as memorable as “Streets of Whiterun” from Skyrim. That must mean it must be worse than Skyrim, right?

[HRose]

And yet you’re bandwagoning with the “detractors”, grasping at straws, barely checking facts (when they seem to confirm your prejudices), as if you’re the selected few who know the truth. Hmmmm.

Quote me a single line when I claim the game is bad, or even my opinion about it. The only opinion I personally gave is that I don’t like combat animations. The rest have been technical comments about the engine, according to the material we have available.

Checking facts: is what the forum should be about. I bring up a point, you bring up another.

I thought that the game is claimed to have no DRM, the quote from that devs said the pirate copy would be playable, so I simply thought the game was playable already. It’s only logical. There’s no “bias” about this.

[HRose]

HRose, here’s a thing you might appreciate: I’m listening to the Witcher 3 soundtrack now, and, while it’s good, it doesn’t have (for me) any songs as memorable as “Streets of Whiterun” from Skyrim. That must mean it must be worse than Skyrim, right?

I quoted a review and now you are conflating my opinion to the one of that reviewer. Stop using straw mans. You don’t know what I think and you aren’t smart enough to guess it.

If you want an argument you have to read that review. For example this is for me more worthwhile to discuss than loading screens, which is instead the only thing you saw:

Perhaps still more telling is that you rarely get distracted while roaming the land. There’s simply very little to distract you with – perhaps a pack of wolves, or a treasure marker, but not enough for you to weave your own anecdotes borne of spontaneous goings-on. Lush as it is in vegetation, Velen feels curiously barren of intrigue and activity when you’re not questing.

He was saying it doesn’t feel open-world because it has a very linear progression, and if you step out of the linear path you either find emptiness or quests too hard to do.

Might be that this actually puts an actual dent on the idea of “open-world”? Reducing it to just a complaint about loading screens was just a way to get a cheap shot.

[rhamorim]

Quote me a single line when I claim the game is bad, or even my opinion about it. The only opinion I personally gave is that I don’t like combat animations. The rest have been technical comments about the engine, according to the material we have available.

I can’t, because you’re trying to point only negative things, and there are very few of them so far. I’m sure you’ll have tons of opinions on that once the game is out and people start playing and finding faults in it - not you, because if this is like Pillars of Eternity, you won’t play such a terrible game, right?

I thought that the game is claimed to have no DRM, the quote from that devs said the pirate copy would be playable, so I simply thought the game was playable already. It’s only logical. There’s no “bias” about this.

So devs say the pirate copy would be playable on launch, and you conclude it was playable already, despite the fact that, if it was playable already, all the forums you’re browsing to look for proof of the downgrading would be filled to the brim with videos and screenshots, instead of being limited to poorly extracted frames from Youtube compressed videos?

I don’t think that’s logical at all, so you might want to reconsider your logic.

[triggercut]

Quote me a single line when I claim the game is bad, or even my opinion about it. The only opinion I personally gave is that I don’t like combat animations. The rest have been technical comments about the engine, according to the material we have available.

Checking facts: is what the forum should be about. I bring up a point, you bring up another.

I thought that the game is claimed to have no DRM, the quote from that devs said the pirate copy would be playable, so I simply thought the game was playable already. It’s only logical. There’s no “bias” about this.

(Shudder. I’m going in.)

Does it matter that ONLY the pre-release and pre-order copies need to phone home? That the developers have explicitly stated that physical and digital media after the first batch will not require it?

That feels like no DRM to me.

[rhamorim]

He was saying it doesn’t feel open-world because it has a very linear progression, and if you step out of the linear path you either find emptiness or quests too hard to do.

And yet a different reviewer said the exact opposite, and suddenly his opinion doesn’t count?

[rhamorim]

You don’t know what I think and you aren’t smart enough to guess it.

And that’s where I stop debating with you.

[HRose]

And yet a different reviewer said the exact opposite, and suddenly his opinion doesn’t count?

Where did I say that what a different reviewer wrote doesn’t count? You imagined it?

That’s the point of having a discussion instead of jumping to each other throat on THE PREMISE.

I have no idea whether or not that reviewer I quoted points out something true. I just said that even if the ratings are high, many reviews are also critical of some important aspects, I quoted one.

It’s exactly because we don’t know that the more information you gather the better. But of course negative information isn’t welcome when the point of this thread is to make people spend happily their money and build up expectations.

I’m just not joining the hype train and I’m pissing everyone off because that’s what you demand of people here. Conformity.

[Busbecq]

Do you talk to anyone irl?

[triggercut]

I have no idea whether or not that reviewer I quoted points out something true.

That’s not what you said. You said he confirmed your doubts. Would you like us to look up the meaning of the word “confirm” for you?

It’s enough that you feel the need to threadshit. Don’t lie about things.

[rhamorim]

Article on how CD Projekt approached the weather in Witcher 3:

CD Projekt Explains The Witcher 3's Ever-Changing Weather With Exclusive...

[HRose]

Do you talk to anyone irl?

Yep, the difference is that people pay me to listen to me irl.

[Telefrog]

Article on how CD Projekt approached the weather in Witcher 3:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/05/12/cd-projekt-explains-the-witcher-3s-ever-changing-weather-with-exclusive-screenshots.aspx

I heard that if a game doesn’t actually create local weather occurrences in real life where you play, it can’t be considered “open world” now.