I’m not sure I get the joke…would you expect them to go through iTunes or Google Play instead? Or do they have to have a version that runs on Windows 8 PCs too? (I guess that would be a little weird.) Or would Microsoft completely open up the Xbox One to all code on the internet? They obviously have to go through some sort of Microsoft store.

App stores in general are great. For decades I would try to distribute apps in various ways with very little success, but with more recent apps I’ve been using the iOS app store, the Amazon app store, and Google Play. Its been way better. I think people are more comfortable downloading things from a well known app store than they are some 3rd party software or internet website.

Respectfully disagree. Mobile app stores in general are terrible user experiences, Apple App Store in particular. Aside from top-rating and featured games, all other games on app stores might as well be invisible, being buried by thousands of other similar-seeming, similarly-priced games all competing for same attention and dollar. Browsing through pages upon pages of games that may not even be properly labeled by “genre” simply isn’t useful for finding games that be of individual interest.

By all appearances, app stores are similarly hostile to developers, who have no means of distinguishing their games from a sea of similarly-titled clones. Some developers will likely benefit if Microsoft adopts mobile-app-store-like business model of taking “only” 30% revenue (and walking away), given previously cited [usurious] costs for Xbox Live games, but may end up facing massive challenge getting own games “discovered” once marketplace matures. Presumably implies land rush of sorts for early Xbox One independent games that can stake out that marketplace and build a following first ala mobile first-movers such as Peggle, Fruit Ninja, etc…

Confirmed. They will have a self-publishing program and a way for indies to turn any Xbox One into a debug console.

No word on the restriction rumor.

I thought Dev consoles had more RAM normally in order to be able to actually run debug and stuff on them? Anyways - interesting, but…well, at least they try.

Yea!!! It’s about time! Now I can get excited about the Xbox One :)
I hope they dont go too far and sell a version minus the kinect. Even though MS refuses to show it working in any of the XBox One commercials Ive seen I have great hope that it will be as accurate and good as they claim. So it can be an addendum to the controller… Not a replacement.

I cannot wait for the new Kinect Sports!

Microsoft denied the rumors of the Xbox One without Kinect yesterday. I didn’t even bother posting news about it because the whole thing was kind of ridiculous and unsubstantiated.

So it seems like Microsoft is actually trying to make amends. Positive changes all over the place. OK, fine. Then the next change on my wishlist (like jpinard, I never wished for them to decouple the Kinect, I’m glad that will be part of every console) is that they de-couple Hulu Plus and Netflix and other apps like that from Xbox Live Gold. I love playing with my friends and my brothers, but I don’t have time anymore. Truth is, I’ve been paying for Live for over a year now just for the sole purpose of watching Netflix and Hulu Plus, and I’m tired of that.

With PS4, I won’t have to get PS Plus, and I probably won’t. (A lot of people see the PS Plus games as a huge advantage, but sometimes it does look appealing, but most of the time, I just look at that and see a way for my back log to get bigger and bigger with games I own but won’t necessarily ever check out). So being able to see Netflix on PS4 without PS Plus is a huge advantage.

Come on Microsoft, we know you’re listening now.

Why? There are so many ways to get streaming content to your TV without shelling out for Gold. Get something like the awsome Roku 3 and give MS the bird on Live Gold.

Well, I usually wait for deals to get Xbox Live extensions. And I buy years in advance. Usually when it’s like $33 to $35 for a year. So I just haven’t run out yet. But during the last year, I just haven’t used it for anything besides Netflix. When it does run out though (April 29, 2014), is it really cheaper to get something like the Roku 3? Isn’t $33 to $35 cheaper than whatever the Roku costs? Or does it have other benefits that make it worth having that neither the Xbox One nor the PS4 will have?

Roku is cheap, especially if you pick one up on a sale or as an exiting model. Many BluRay players allow you to access these as well. Both of mine do… and those are also cheap, especially the exiting models again. I mean it’s a sunk cost and no paying for the privilege of using it.

Or just get one of these for $35.

There is also the new Google Chromevideo thingy. Not sure if that does Hulu but it does Netflix and is $35 dollars. While one year of Xbox Live at $35 is cheap, it’s one year and then you buy another year and so forth just so you can watch Netflix which adds up. There are plenty of ways now to access Netflix/Hulu, etc that if you’re paying for Xbox gold just for that you’re just not looking around.

Yeah, I bought a Roku for the sole purpose of having Netflix in a second room without having to pay for Gold. More up front, but I am way in the black on that choice now.

Nice concept, but I haven’t been impressed with many of the Google based devices just yet… i mean Google TV kind of sucks. Vizo Co-star, based on android, pretty crappy device too. There are those who will not like the limitation of the Roku devices, but they are simple and work. Blurays are not perfect either, but they serve fairly well as multi-purpose devices, and both of mine have some DLNA qualities (some compatibility issues though).

Oh how I covet one of these that will just run XBMC seamlessly.

Yes, previously they have. But…is that honestly so useful when the architecture is x64 at base? (Also, the amount of memory available is considerably higher than previous consoles, and debug extensions are relatively a far smaller % of it)

Self publishing channels is good news for the console, but this is starting to get old here… Can we believe anything that’s been said about the Xbox One so far? And if their vision is "that every person can be a creator,” why wasn’t this there from the start? How much backpedaling is OK before people start going “hey wait a minute…” I do so love marketing speech.

edit: spielling

But there are still debug units available to those who needs one, right? I mean, if you’re pushing the Xbox One to its limits (or the PS4 for that matter), I don’t think you qualify as an “Indie Developer”.

I have no idea, but will take your word for it :-) I just remembered reading that somewhere, and it made sense, from my limited experience.