To clear this up:

The Xbox One unbundled costs 499 EUR
Bundled with FIFA 14 it costs 529 EUR

The 10 EUR article is a 2m HDMI cable.

Here are the same prices by a competitor (Media Markt) with other games bundled:
http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/shop/xbox-one-bundle.html?et_cid=52&et_lid=202&et_sub=Gaming-Spielzeug-Stage-tab3-2x3x4-xbox-one-bundle

I bought the Walking Dead season 4, second half on Xbox Video on my Xbox One. When I go to play the first episode, instead of playing it, it asks me to buy it. When try to play the same video on Xbox Video on Xbox 360, and it plays just fine. It blows my mind that Microsoft wants people to pay $500 that is more buggy and less feature-complete than its predecessor.

Yeah, the rumors were clearly true, they really did completely start over when it came to the Xbox One, and it will take a while to have feature parity with the 360. Same with the PS4 actually, except they got to a more polished point on release.

So Rock8man, you’re in a unique position. Since you own and, I assume, use a PS4 and XB1 regularly, how would you advise someone who really only wants one console for this gen? I went into this leaning toward the Xbox since I really liked my 360 and skipped out on the PS3 entirely but all the blahblahlbah over the past few months has really tilted me toward the PlayStation. Given that a tilt is going to be influenced to an extent by what games are available for both, what do you think? Anything you really like about one over the other or, alternatively, really don’t like about one? I’m likely not going to pull the trigger on this for some months anyway, but I’m curious.

You’re probably not going to like this answer, but they each have their charms.

For the XB1, I’ve said this here multiple times but it’s worth repeating: the ability to watch Hulu Plus while playing games is a game changer for me. Now I don’t have to choose between Forza and the Daily Show and Colbert Report. Or Powerstar Golf and South Park. I can play a game, as long as it is a little lenient about distractions, and watch a show, as long as the show doesn’t require complete attention. Plus I do like the games on XB1 a lot better right now. Forza 5 is the best in the main series by far, and the little side games like Powerstar Golf and Max and Ryse are pretty good. I believe McMaster when he says Dead Rising 3 is great too, though I haven’t gotten around to that yet.

But the PS4 has its own charms. It’s trying to achieve less, but it feels more polished. For example, the XB1’s implementation of viewing movies from my PC is a bit clunky with having to start the app, then go to the PC and select the file and pick “play to”, and then go back to the XB1 in the living room. In comparison, the PS4 doesn’t support it at all. So you’d think XB1 wins there, right? Well, no, because since the PS4 doesn’t support it, you never even try to do something like that on it, and it doesn’t create a bad impression since it’s not clunky. I don’t like the PS4 controller as much as the XB1, but it’s soooooo much better than the PS3’s controller, that it just feels like a bigger victory for the PS4 this time. They improved their controller a hundred times over the PS3’s, while the XB1 controller is only twice as good as the 360 controller.

Truthfully, I think you’ll be happy whichever one you pick this time. The XB1, I’m sure, will soon get party chat like the 360, and other features that didn’t make it over yet. And Titanfall and the new Halo are probably going to be cool. Plus you might feel a little envy at Digital Foundry reports about cross platform games being higher rez on PS4, but it won’t really matter all that much I suspect. If you get PS4, since it actually has a controller that can play first and third person shooters well this time, I suspect you’ll be just as happy with a PS4. Maybe this new Uncharted game will finally be when I start enjoying the series instead of just enjoying the cutscenes (thanks to the new controller). Same with Infamous. I already like Don’t Starve on PS4 a lot. It’s a very couch friendly indie game. I’m sure PS+ will continue to be a good value for getting access to some games for an annual fee, especially if the PS3 is a good indication of where it could be headed in 5 years or so after the PS4’s release.

I’m very happy with both of them. The XB1 definitely feels rougher but it’s allowing me to play more games while still watching TV shows I like, which has allowed me to basically double my gaming time. And the PS4’s PS+ games Resogun and Don’t Starve have kept me busy too. No buyer’s regret from me at all like there was for the Wii and PS3 last generation.

No, that’s good info - I was looking for your impressions after a little time with the consoles and I got it, thank you. I still feel a little closer to PS4 because I just don’t feel like I’m in sync with what Microsoft is trying to do this gen - things you mention as particular strengths, like watching multiple media easily or viewing from PC just aren’t big draws for me. Mainly I want to play kickass games. And I’m a little burned out on MS’s first party offerings, I’m about Gears and Halo’d out. I know PS4 isn’t backward compatible, but maybe there will be some ports of popular PS3 franchises so I can see what I missed out on last gen. Like I said, I’m still planning to hang back and see what the next few months offer, and anyway I don’t think I could find a PS4 if I wanted one. But, who knows, something awesome may come out. I’d hate to miss the next Crackdown.

There is no such thing as a great game that you can play while watching tv and I don’t buy consoles for average games.

Forza 5 is amazingly good. But that’s a very specific genre that might not appeal to you. It’s a really great game, and it is perfect for playing while watching TV because if you ever get too distracted by the TV and make a mistake, you can always reverse time and undo your mistake. I’m good enough at the game now where most of my mistakes now only come at the hands of distractions from simultaneously watching TV.

Anyway, yeah, doing both activities is definitely not suitable across many game and TV show combinations. But it is suitable for some. And it is a huge deal if you only get about 1-2 hours of leisure time each evening.

You know, I suspect there is – especially for multiplayer games with significant downtime. I’ve been playing a lot of Payday 2 lately, and often have netflix paused on the TV (in the same room) waiting for the interminable periods between missions.

But have you seen the next Infamous?

February system update is live according to HYRB:

Rock8man, thanks for the impressions. For me, the multimedia stuff (e.g. watching TV while having a game up, using the Xbox to control my Dish menu, etc.) is of no interest at all: I want a box that plays games with the highest res, smoothest framerate, fewest pop-ups, etc. And in terms of things like Hulu and Netflix (which I do watch through my consoles) I seem to have more issues with the XBox 360 than the PS3; for example, connected to the same router, both consoles in the same room, I can’t get 1080p shows in Netflix to play in high resolution through the 360. I’ve read a lot from others with the same problem, but MS just tells you to check your internet connection, while the people I talked to at Netflix said they are also hearing of the issue but it is on the XBox side, etc. Same show, same internet connection, within minutes of each other, the same show on Netflix on the PS3 will come up in “Super HD” 1080p no problem. I’ve simply given up watching Netflix on my 360 (this occurred, FWIW, after a Netflix update on the 360 a few months ago.) No idea if that kind of issue carries over to the XBox One (because to be fair, a lot of people don’t see it on the 360.)

Anyway, I’m still waiting and watching as I don’t have the spare cash right now anyway. But so far, I’m not seeing a downside to going PS4.

Then you want the PS4. You go XB1 if you care about their exclusives or Kinect functionality or the TV overlay.

Yeah, I started with a PS3 because I needed a Bluray player, back in 2009 (my first console purchase.) I added an XBox 360 because I perceived a number of games looked and played better on it (the controller was never an issue for me.) E.g. RDR, and especially Skyrim (which never did get completely “fixed” on the PS3 AFAIK.) I WANTED to buy a Kinect, I’m a tech junkie and tend to buy cool peripherals (I’ve got a box of them I don’t use, LOL!) and kept waiting for that great game that would give me an excuse, e.g, a great golf sim. But never did see games that pushed me to get a Kinect.

So now, since I still don’t see a compelling need for Kinect, at least at this point, and both systems do what I want in terms of platforms for things like Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu + and both have Bluray capability, the apparent gaming advantage seems to tilt things to the PS4 for me. But I still will probably not buy (unless I get some major discount on one or the other) for another few months.

Oh - one thing that was a disadvantage for the PS4 for me - we sometimes put a home movie we’ve edited or other multimedia on a USB stick and plug it into the PS3 or Xbox 360 and play it from there. My understanding is you can’t do that with the PS4 - is that still true?

Not at the moment, though Sony are reportedly adding more media functions, DLNA, etc.

I’m fairly sure you can’t do that on Xbox One either. If you have Windows 8 on a nearby laptop or tablet, you can play the video on that and push it to the Xbox One.

On another note, I’ve had to reboot twice sense getting the new patch for Xbox One. Playing Need for Speed: Rivals tonight, both my sister and I had our screens go black at different times and had to reboot. So much for “improved stability”.

Forgot another one: after the update, Harmony remotes cannot turn off the Xbox One. Multiple users at the Harmony forums confirm.

Since the update over the weekend, some Kinect voice commands seem to be broken for me too. “Xbox Turn Off” works, but it doesn’t recognise the following “Yes”.

EDIT: I’ve fixed this with a hard reboot (i.e. full power down then back on).

Still no Dolby surround for the optical out, which means no surround for turtle beach headphones.

Same

Sweet, I’ll have to try that.

[Edit] Yep that did it. Thanks Sam!