The XBOX One

RickH · 2014-02-20T10:00:32.000Z

Ben Kuchera via Polygon:

“I watched the Super Bowl with friends this year. At the beginning of the game, during a big play, we jumped to our feet. Kinect mistook this for a hand gesture, loading the gesture overlay over the football game. In a rush to get the overlay to disappear, I accidentally paused the television,” Polygon’s Chris Plante told me. He had to stop eating in front of the television, because the Kinect would bring up the gesture overlay every time he raised the fork.

“Every day I hear the following: 'Xbox, watch TV. Xbox, WATCH TV. Oh, screw you, Xbox,” Justin McElroy wrote.

The Kinect is starting to look like the Xbone’s albatross rather than its primary selling point.

Telefrog · 2014-02-20T10:05:13.000Z

The fact that MS thought people wanted to pay $100 more for the Xbox One for the Kinect is amazing to me.

instant0 · 2014-02-20T10:10:14.000Z

Focus Groups.

Wonder where they find them.

:-)

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Edit:

Quote Originally Posted by Ben Kuchera via Polygon
“I watched the Super Bowl with friends this year. At the beginning of the game, during a big play, we jumped to our feet. Kinect mistook this for a hand gesture, loading the gesture overlay over the football game. In a rush to get the overlay to disappear, I accidentally paused the television,” Polygon’s Chris Plante told me. He had to stop eating in front of the television, because the Kinect would bring up the gesture overlay every time he raised the fork.

“Every day I hear the following: 'Xbox, watch TV. Xbox, WATCH TV. Oh, screw you, Xbox,” Justin McElroy wrote.

Maybe microsoft is trying to reduce the obesity in the west/US by having people not eat in front of the tv. (Where mostly junk is consumed, and eaten)

Cyrano · 2014-02-20T10:21:29.000Z

There’s a fix for the Harmony remotes not turning off Xbox One issue: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Harmony-Remotes/Update-Harmony-and-Microsoft-Xbox-One/td-p/1135553

There’s no fix yet for the black screen bug (other than hard-rebooting), but Microsoft has at least acknowledged it.

Telefrog · 2014-02-20T10:24:32.000Z

instant0:

Maybe microsoft is trying to reduce the obesity in the west/US by having people not eat in front of the tv. (Where mostly junk is consumed, and eaten)

What’s great is this actually came from a diagram of a PS3 motion control patent application.

stusser · 2014-02-20T10:26:34.000Z

Telefrog:

The fact that MS thought people wanted to pay $100 more for the Xbox One for the Kinect is amazing to me.

They never thought that. They thought the consumer needed to be told what they wanted, and were willing to push their agenda past consumer outcry. This same attitude infected Windows 8. It left when MS booted Sinofsky, and now they are backpedaling as quickly as possible.

I honestly expect them to release a Xbone without the kinect for $400 very soon.

Brad_Grenz · 2014-02-20T10:32:04.000Z

For people who don’t want to use the Kinect voice commands they just announced a media remote for the Xbox One. The remote is $25 and requires Kinect.

Jason_McMaster · 2014-02-20T10:49:03.000Z

Brad Grenz:

For people who don’t want to use the Kinect voice commands they just announced a media remote for the Xbox One. The remote is $25 and requires Kinect.

It requires the Kinect because the Kinect is what does the IR blasts for channel changing. I just use my cable remote and disconnected the old Kinect.

Jason_McMaster · 2014-02-20T10:53:27.000Z

Just an explanation, btw, not some sort of justification. I was pretty surprised I couldn’t change channels without the Kinect using the controller.

TimElhajj · 2014-02-20T14:04:41.000Z

Telefrog:

What’s great is this actually came from a diagram of a PS3 motion control patent application.

I wonder if it will still work if you grab your crotch and say, “MCDONALD’S!”

instant0 · 2014-02-20T16:19:17.000Z

That feature should be included in every kid game, using the kinect to notice if any adults are in the room or not. Awesome easter egg for brainwashing.

olaf · 2014-02-20T20:07:21.000Z

Sometimes when I am watching a blu ray I will get these little hand icons that appear on the sides of my TV. Incessantly. How the fuck do I disable this shit? Just unplug the Kinect? There does not seem to be an option like ‘Chill the fuck out during movie play back’ that I have found.

mrbloo · 2014-02-21T00:13:08.000Z

Stop waving at the people on the screen, dude. They can’t see you.

instant0 · 2014-02-21T01:00:21.000Z

mrbloo:

Stop waving at the people on the screen, dude. They can’t see you.

hahaha…

Must be watching horror movies. “He’s behind you!”

Jason_McMaster · 2014-02-21T06:28:06.000Z

Not to derail the thread, but I still really like my One

flyinj · 2014-02-21T07:44:27.000Z

As much as I absolutely despise the ultimate cynical marketing wet dream that Microsoft has made the XBOX brand, I’m really nervous about the situation. I really want the XBOX to fail on a moral level, as it’s success would pave the way for even more intrusive marketing shoved down our throats.

However, it’s failure means that we will have a monopoly in the console space by Sony. And that could potentially be worse than the success of the XBOX.

As of now, I just don’t understand any compelling reason to ever own an XBOX other that Titanfall or if you love watching football. And from what I’m reading, even if you do love watching football, the XBOX seems to be making that experience worse.

forgeforsaken · 2014-02-21T07:54:11.000Z

flyinj:

As much as I absolutely despise the ultimate cynical marketing wet dream that Microsoft has made the XBOX brand, I’m really nervous about the situation. I really want the XBOX to fail on a moral level, as it’s success would pave the way for even more intrusive marketing shoved down our throats.

However, it’s failure means that we will have a monopoly in the console space by Sony. And that could potentially be worse than the success of the XBOX.

As of now, I just don’t understand any compelling reason to ever own an XBOX other that Titanfall or if you love watching football. And from what I’m reading, even if you do love watching football, the XBOX seems to be making that experience worse.

And Titanfall runs great on PC, and while I understand the couch over PC preference and have been known to subscribe to it for various games myself, it’s just not enough of a draw to pick up an XB1 when I have a PS4 and a reasonably decent PC.

Brad_Grenz · 2014-02-21T07:56:34.000Z

Propping up a product that can’t compete on its own merits is a pretty poor way to keep Sony in check. Besides, the PS1 and PS2 eras were basically golden eras for console gaming. And its not like Sony would not have Steam and Apple and Google and soon Amazon to keep them honest.

flyinj · 2014-02-21T08:05:40.000Z

forgeforsaken:

And Titanfall runs great on PC, and while I understand the couch over PC preference and have been known to subscribe to it for various games myself, it’s just not enough of a draw to pick up an XB1 when I have a PS4 and a reasonably decent PC.

Personally, I’m done playing multiplayer FPS on PC. Way too many hacks, and I really don’t like the hardware disparity. Consoles have no cheats and everyone is on the same playing field hardware and controller-wise.

That said, I’m just going to get Titanfall on my 360 and deal with the graphical downgrade.

stusser · 2014-02-21T08:07:11.000Z

Like I said earlier, I kinda want both of them to fail and be replaced by inexpensive Steam machines. But that’s a pipedream.