No such thing as an affordable Steam machine while this damnable crypto-currency craze keeps chugging along! :)
Sony will do plenty to keep Sony in check. They’re a horribly managed company with a lot of failing products. They have all this good will right now, but we’ll see what happens down the road.
I like that we’re pretty much at the point where people are saying the fight is over and “propping up” a product to compete with Sony. Selling tons of consoles but not as many as the PS4 is a huge failure I guess. 3 months out.
This is hysterical in thread about Microsoft.
The moral of the story is that I don’t think the fight is over yet
Aleck
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It’s definitely a bit early to make judgements about winners and losers – but, since this is the Internet, THE WORLD IS OVER!
I may have replied to Brad who was specifically replying to flyinj instead of making a prediction.
I could start listing the Microsoft failures, but that is a trivial exercise left to the reader.
Microsoft makes tons of money and will for quite some time, but that is because of the work they did 20 years ago and the vendor lock in and inertia inherent in the enterprise , not anything they have done in the last 10. Based on the stuff that has been floating around the past few months, Microsoft’s own investors don’t even want the game’s division because it still hasn’t turned a profit.
My point isn’t that Sony is some well managed company, but that Microsoft is just as bad.
Jason’s correct. Sony is having a lot of profitability issues. Hell, they’re divesting themselves of their TVs and their laptop business. I don’t think anyone’s surprised about the VAIO arm going away, but if you’d have asked ten years ago to picture Sony without their TVs you’d have been laughed at.
Microsoft has also been having issues with their core products, but (and this is important) they’re still running in the green overall. Plus, they just cleaned house in management. Win8 was a gigantic stumble, but then again so was Vista. I think they can get back on track if they apply the right lessons to Win9.
As for Xbox One versus PS4, I don’t want to see either console fail and go away. I think it’s better for the consumer to have these two (and I really wish Nintendo would get back in the race and make a third) consoles competing and pushing each other. I’m just not confident that Microsoft is agile enough to turn the Xbox One around before it’s too late.
Aleck
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During the beginning of the PS3 era, wasn’t Sony’s TV business what kept them afloat? It’s pretty amazing to see how fortunes have changed.
No, the TV division has been a sinkhole for over 5 years.
Yeah, it took about as long as it took people figured out they were paying for the Sony name. They had nice TVs but you can get one just as nice for half the price
Murbella
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The fight isn’t over, but it won’t even start until Microsoft wakes up and cuts their losses with the Kinect. The Xbox one needs to be $400, and preferably yesterday. Whether it includes the Kinect or not, I don’t think many people even care, as long as it is the same price, or less. The Kinect was a complete failure on the 360 and it is still one on the xbox one. Similar to windows 8, Microsoft ignored their customers because they thought they knew better what we wanted, to similar results it seems.
Once they do this, I think they will have a fair chance. Ps4 still has an advantage in hardware, but Americans just plain like Microsoft more than sony in my experience, so once the obvious reason not to buy a xbox one goes away, they will ignore everything else.
wumpus
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The Kinect was a complete failure on the 360
24 million units of Kinect had been shipped by February 2013.[7] Having sold 8 million units in its first 60 days on the market, Kinect has claimed the Guinness World Record of being the “fastest selling consumer electronics device”.[148][149][150][151] According to Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter, Kinect bundles accounted for about half of all Xbox 360 console sales in December 2010 and for more than two-thirds in February 2011.[152][153] More than 750,000 Kinect units were sold during the week of Black Friday 2011.
You have a strange definition of “complete failure”. I find your beliefs fascinating.
Kadath
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Xbox announces they are still Gamestop’s bitch:
It’s not being developed for by 3rd party studios. You can count on one hand the number of must have Kinect titles and conversely, on many hands the absolute disasters or pure gimmick implementations.
Sure, they sold a shit ton for 360 when the Wii was driving the fad of motion controls. But since then it is has far from proven itself as a must have peripheral and worse, it is proving to be a dead weight around Xbone’s neck.
I’d maybe not say it is a complete failure, but it sure as hell not a complete success.
I finished Ryse tonight. Great game with good pacing, excellent virtual acting, and a pretty unique rhythm based combat system. The game it reminded me most of, from a gameplay point of view, was Jet Set Radio Future. Just like that game, it’s more about rhythm than anything else. The only segments I didn’t care for were when they put me in the machine gun nest. It’s the only time the game felt tired and unoriginal.
I still do a double take every time Crytek’s name comes up when the game starts. Crytek did this great game? Really? It’s especially surprising considering how much I loved the dialog and performances and story. I’ve definitely not thought about any other Crytek game. Not even close.
Any history buffs know just how much of the story was based on real history? Was Rome really sacked by Barbarians (in this case, Britons)? Did Emperors really start thinking of themselves as gods? Did the Colosseum really have complex moving platforms like that? Did they have slaves turning cranks somewhere to make that happen? (I kid, I kid. I know that part can’t be real).
Yeah, the Kinect 1 had a sales trajectory that took it straight into the dirt after 3 years. The software almost universally had disastrous sales, save for dance games that even sell well on PS3 where you just wave a dual shock around.
That 24 million is a total bullshit shipped number not sold to consumers. MS always touted the 8 million sold at the start and then nothing afterwards because sales tanked when people realized it was a useless gimmick. Kinect was and is nothing but a manufactured PR “success” by MS because they foolishly think its cool and they can convince consumers of that too.
Xbox announces they are still Gamestop’s bitch:
http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comm...g_is_real_for/
Tell me about it. The new EDF is 45 quid to download! I haven’t paid that much for an Xbox 360 game since about six months after launch. I’m certainly not paying that much for a glorified PS2 game you muppets. Amazon can have my money instead.
