What are you supposed to do then?

If doing something bad and then deciding not to do it results in a net positive customer attitude towards that product, then what reason do companies have to do the right thing from the start?

I’m curious why people in this thread seem to think that MS only conceded the “start” of this console generation. You really think MS can turn it around and equal the PS4 install base? Even in the US?

The NPD numbers speak for themself. The Xbone has never beaten the PS4, even with the aid of Titanfall. Surely someone has run the long-term projections. I doubt it’s 50% of the PS4 install base by year five. In the US. Globally, of course, the install base will be far less.

MS conceded the entire console generation before their E3 presser was even finished.

Sure. The PS3 beat the X360 by 2012. Took awhile, but it’s possible.

Gotta have those exclusives.

But MS has, like, none, right? And Sony has Naughty Dog and Sucker Punch, and dozens of other studios. Ok, MS has almost as many has Sony, but they’ve all delivered nothing or failures for the last 3-4 years. Lionhead might as well be dead. Forza and GT are a wash. Their only hope lies with Halo.

It won’t be enough.

It’s hard to see any way the Xbox One can be viable on the long term while it continues to sell so poorly OUTSIDE of North America. In April it was outsold worldwide by at least 4:1, and it could easily be as high as 6 or 7:1. That is dramatically worse then the results last generation, and if they are also consistently losing 60% of the North American market to PS4 and they are looking at a long generation where they barely fart over 30M sold. At a certain point MS would have to reexamine their commitment to the console market as a whole, and I suspect they are no more committed to Xbox than they were to Kinect, no matter what they say in public.

Keep trolling with your wishful thinking, Brad. If you think MS is only concerned about Sony and Nintendo in the living room (and at this point I don’t think anyone is worried about Nintendo any more), then you’re incredibly shortsighted.

As speculated above, April NPD numbers were fairly terrible for Microsoft which no doubt contributed to the Kinect turnaround.

Microsoft reports it sold just 115,000 Xbox One consoles in the month of April in the U.S., placing behind sales of Sony’s PlayStation 4 console for the fourth month in a row. […]

Indeed, Sony’s Guy Longworth confirmed via a statement that Infamous: Second Son for PlayStation 4 was the highest-selling ‘next-gen’ console game at U.S. retail in April, beating out the Xbox One version of Titanfall.

I read elsewhere that the Xbone now also dropped below the comparison month for Xbox 360 at the same time after release, so there’s that. And the old Xbox 360 still sold 71,000 units in April.

The wishful thinking is Microsoft trying to push the Xbox One as some supposed ultimate entertainment device. Its clearly blowing up right in their face and they have done nothing but backtrack and reverse themselves again and again. This last year of missteps rivals their RROD fiasco with the 360.

Yes, but worse than that, every 360 April since launch (with the exception of 2014) has been higher than Xbone’s April.

From GAF:

360:
April 2006 - 295K
April 2007 - 174K
April 2008 - 188K
April 2009 - 175K
April 2010 - 185K
April 2011 - 297K
April 2012 - 236K
April 2013 - 130K

Xbox One:
April 2014 - 115K

Possibly. The numbers are about even at the moment in America, if they get some exclusives they might manage it.
They’re going to be massively behind in Europe, sure (and Japan was never a contest, I think the XB1 launch is…September?)

The PS4 is outselling Sony’s projections - which Sony badly need to turn around their losses in recent years.

This is starting to look like the PS4 thread.

First, I never felt “screwed” by MS wrt XBox One. Any more than I would feel screwed by, say, Lexus if they came out with an Infinity that had less power than a Ford and a heads up display in the middle of the windshield you could not turn off. Because, ya know, I don’t have to buy it.

But I am honestly a little puzzled by this move. If you remove the Kinect, what does MS sell as the competitive advantage of the XBox One over the PS4?

MS exclusives that did well since 2010:
Crackdown 2
Halo: Reach
Fable 3
Dance Central
Toy Soldiers: Cold War
Gears of War 3
Forza Motorsport 4
Witcher 2
Forza Horizon
Halo 4
Gears of War: Judgment
State of Decay

Sony exclusives that did well since 2010:
God of War III
Gran Turismo 5
LittleBigPlanet 2
Killzone 3
inFamous 2
Resistance 3
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception
MLB 12: The Show
Journey
MLB 13: The Show
The Last of Us

Of course, note, doing well means they sold well.

It’s not a Microsoft exclusive any longer but the 360 has become the Minecraft machine.

Yeah, that’s why I didn’t include it in the list.

Microsoft is domed

Does that mean we might get a Nokia android phone that isn’t dogshit?

That is one of the more interesting pieces of this article.

I had not seen that before. This truly is disastrous for the xbone. All hopes rested on Titanfall. If it didn’t even outsell a tier-2 game like Infamous, they’re screwed for this year.

Xbone needed to launch with Halo 5. Titanfall was as close as they could come. Not enough.

That was the big gun they chose, but was it really that smart to bet all of their chips on the first iteration of a multiplayer-only game? Yet another example of their “games as a low priority” strategy. Thanks, company that bought Ensemble, forced it to make a console RTS game (because every last one that came before was such a smashing success), and then shut it down.

Not that MS has much first-party juice other than Halo, and I’m sure there are diminishing returns going on there.