The XBOX One

[mrbloo]

Minecraft has something like two thirds of its current sales on mobile. It belongs in this discussion as much as something like candy crush. My personal take on it if you’re talking about games for either console platform, it’s either AAA, or gtfo.

[sharaleo]

Minecraft has something like two thirds of its current sales on mobile. It belongs in this discussion as much as something like candy crush. My personal take on it if you’re talking about games for either console platform, it’s either AAA, or gtfo.

You’re joking right? Do have any idea of how many copies of Minecraft have sold for 360?

As of April 4, 2014 the Xbox 360 version has sold 12 million copies

People have bought 360’s just for Minecraft. Yet it (and indie) is not relevant to console discussion? Yeah, right.

[WarpRattler]

I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the sound of these goalposts being dragged across the field.

Diablo III on PC sold vastly better than most (if not all) of your named 360 exclusives. So much for not mattering, eh?

[Starlight]

Darn lively zombie platforms.

[WhollySchmidt]

Can anyone point to a single great game that used kinect 1?

Seconding the Dance Central franchise. Legitimately awesome, and couldn’t have been done nearly as well without the Kinect. The Wii had the dancing games that attempted it with the players holding the Wiimote, and they were okay, but Dance Central was absolutely superior, and I don’t regret purchasing the Kinect just for the Dance Central games at all.

[Desslock]

While it will probably help Microsoft to drop the Kinect, it actually makes me even less likely to ever buy an Xbox One, as I had some vague hope that the kinect/camera/voice commands would offer a cool, unique experience that I felt I had to have.

Now there is almost no chance that anyone will bother developing that experience, so we’re left with a terribly inferior piece of hardware compared to the PS4; an ugly, cumbersome/ad-invested UI; a pattern of making decisions that are antithetical to what customers want until browbeaten into more sensible directions; and no exclusives that I’ve felt I needed ever (unlike the PS3/4, which has had Last of Us and Demon’s Souls, which were two can’t-miss games) – I like Halo and Gears of War enough to spend a bunch of time with them, but I got more play out of PS3 exclusives like Uncharted 2 and Little Big Planet and I’m including none of those games as “can’t miss” games. And the only exclusive Xbox1 has is…Forza? I havent been interested in a racing game since 1983’s Pole Position. It’s truly remarkable to me that Microsoft could manage to create a gaming console that I cannot imagine ever wanting.

[KevinC]

Only time will tell, but perhaps they should have kept the Kinect in and just dropped the price to $400 and eaten the loss. My guess is they have a pretty good view of what is (or more to the point, is not) in development for it and made the determination that it was a lost cause.

[Jason_Becker]

Guessing the Xbox division is expected to be a consistently profitable business now after all these years. Just eating the losses on a price drop wasn’t an option so out goes Kinect.

[olaf]

Only time will tell, but perhaps they should have kept the Kinect in and just dropped the price to $400 and eaten the loss. My guess is they have a pretty good view of what is (or more to the point, is not) in development for it and made the determination that it was a lost cause.

I agree with this. The road they went down has a greater chance to alienate the most passionate part of the fanbase, the early adopters.

[Jason_McMaster]

You seem to be using a very strange definition of both “exclusives” and “did well” if you are including relative flops like Crackdown 2, Fables 3 and Gears of War Judgement while excluding games like Heavy Rain, God of War Ascension, Beyond: Two Souls, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Sly Cooper 4, Final Fantasy XIV all of which sold around as much as those. And that’s excluding a much longer list of more niche JRPGs that are considered successes based on their sales inside and outside of Japan. And there’s another list of Sony first party, big budget, swinging for the fences games that failed to find a big audience like Puppeteer, StarHawk, PlayStation Battle Royale, MotoStorm: Apocalypse, SOCOM 4, White Knight Chronicles 2, LBP: Karting, MAG and others. And then you add a nebulous list of Sony funded PSN exclusives that certainly seem to have been successful enough which includes Unfinished Swan, Rain, Sound Shapes, Tokyo Jungle, Guacamelee, etc. And then there are all the HD remakes from PS2.

Long story short, when people say Sony puts out more games than MS it’s because it’s true. You list is a nearly exhaustive list of every retail, non-Kinect game MS published in the last 3.5 years on 360. Your PS3 list is about 1/4th of what Sony published in the same time, not counting PSP, Vita and PS4 titles.

Yeah Brad, you got me. Sorry I did list every shovelware game that Sony and Microsoft released released since 2010. I also didn’t list Alan Wake, etc. Anyway, I’ll compile the entire list.

[Jason_McMaster]

Sony’s list:

MAG
Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel
Last Rebellion
Heavy Rain
God of War III
Yakuza 4
ModNation Racers
Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland
White Knight Chronicles II
Hyperdimension Neptunia Compile Heart
Kung Fu Rider
Sports Champions
Start the Party!
Malicious
The Shoot
Time Crisis: Razing Storm
TV Superstars
SingStar Dance
Record of Agarest War 2
Trinity: Souls of Zill O’ll
Dead Nation
Gran Turismo 5
PlayStation Move Ape Escape
LittleBigPlanet 2
Killzone 3
Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten
MotorStorm: Apocalypse
PlayStation Move Heroes
SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs
inFamous 2
Yakuza: Dead Souls
Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland
Bleach: Soul Resurrección
Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2
Resistance 3
Tales of Xillia
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
Infamous: Festival of Blood
Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception
Carnival Island
Medieval Moves: Deadmund’s Quest
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs.
Twisted Metal
Touch, Shot! Love
MLB 12: The Show
Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn
Journey
Legasista
Mugen Souls
Closure
Starhawk
PixelJunk
Sorcery The Workshop
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk
Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory
One Piece: Pirate Warriors
Tokyo Jungle
Sound Shapes
Time and Eternity
The Unfinished Swan
Sports Champions 2
Tales of Xillia 2
LittleBigPlanet Karting
Wonderbook: Book of Spells
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault
Ryū ga Gotoku 5 Amusement Vision
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky HD
The Guided Fate Paradox Nippon Ichi Software
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
MLB 13: The Show
God of War: Ascension
Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness
Attouteki Yuugi: Mugen Souls Z
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Zillions of Enemy X
The Last of Us
Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky
Dragon’s Crown
Puppeteer
Arcadias no Ikusahime
Rain
Beyond: Two Souls
Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers
Ratchet & Clank: Into the Nexus
Gran Turismo 6
Drakengard 3
Tales of Zestiria
The Last Guardian
Until Dawn
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2
The Witch and The Hundred Knights
Warrior’s Lair

[Jason_McMaster]

XBox list

Lips: Party Classics
Toy Soldiers
Lips: I Love the 80’s
Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi
Alan Wake
Deathsmiles II
Snoopy Flying Ace
Naval Assault: The Killing Tide
Ninety-Nine Nights II
Crackdown 2
Halo: Reach
MorphX
Fable 3
Adrenalin Misfits
Dance Central
Kinectimals
Kinect Adventures!
Kinect Joy Ride BigPark
Kinect Sports
MotionSports
Sonic Free Riders
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout
Game Party: In Motion
Kinect Sports: Season Two
Body and Brain Connection
Fantastic Pets
Carnival Games: Monkey See, Monkey Do
Wipeout in the Zone
Toy Soldiers: Cold War
The Gunstringer
Gears of War 3
Forza Motorsport 4
Hulk Hogans Main Event
Michael Phelps: Push The Limit
Minute to Win It
PowerUp Heroes
Blackwater
Dance Central 2
Motion Explosion!
Twister Mania
Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
Lets Cheer
Jillian Michaels’ Fitness Adventure
Leela
Raving Rabbids: Alive & Kicking
Self-Defense Training Camp
Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
Kinect Disneyland Adventures
Rapala for Kinect
Victorious: Time to Shine
Yoostar on MTV
Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster
Kinect Rush: A Disney-Pixar Adventure
Country Dance All Stars
Kinect Star Wars
Witcher 2
Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
Harry Potter for Kinect
Dance Central 3
Dragon Ball Z for Kinect
Forza Horizon
Nike+ Kinect Training
Halo 4
Gears of War: Judgment
State of Decay
Fable: Anniversary
Kinectalloons
Kinect Nat Geo TV
Kinect Sesame Street TV
NBA Baller Beats
1XR
Demons of Mercy
Super Star
Versus Tactical Action

[Jason_McMaster]

That list is, by the way, console exclusives for the PS3 and the XBox 360 since 2010 according to Wikipedia.

[Brad_Grenz]

Someone made a visual version a while ago:

A few inaccuracies, but fairly representative.

[JoshV]

Someone made a visual version a while ago:
A few inaccuracies, but fairly representative.

Huh, my question on that is that counting PC titles making it non-exclusive? As think that would account for the inflation, due to a larger glut of japanese games, and a horrible track record of porting games from PS3 to the PC. I think that’s important in regards to the people who aren’t like us, and don’t use anything other than a console for video gaming.

[WarpRattler]

It looks to only count exclusives, hence the lack of multiplatform titles (which would probably double the PS3’s non-motion-control stack), and the stack of Kinect titles dwarfing the non-Kinect titles on 360.

[Ginger_Yellow]

I don’t see any in that graphic that made it to PC, unless the MLB: The Show games did. Speaking of which, counting those four times seems like cheating.

[WarpRattler]

No more cheating than counting Dance Central three times, or counting six separate titles between Forza, Gears of War, and Halo.

[jpinard]

Outside of “dance” or “workout” games - what is in development for Xbox ONE “kinect only” titles?

[Telefrog]

Outside of “dance” or “workout” games - what is in development for Xbox ONE “kinect only” titles?

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