It’s such a strange world where “developers developers developers developers” Microsoft is dropping the ball on that.
Teiman
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But surelly, you can update a SDK. Its harder to update hardware already deployed on people homes. Maybe the launch titles will suffer for this. But not much because this being a PC, means people will figure out things. :-O
Maybe, but it’s easier to target the faster platform and downscale for the slower one rather than vice-versa. Heck, PC dev may lead with some studios.
I am not a software engineer but I just don’t get the point of MS using this VM duel OS in the One. What’s wrong with just plain multi-tasking OS? Windows does it just fine. I can run a game and can easily pause alt-tab out use another application like my web browser and alt-tab right back no problem. This just seems like complexity for no real purpose unless there’s something I’m missing.
Teiman
1669
maybe run generic windows software on the vm, and have such vm sandboxed so people dont use it to root the console.
nKoan
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Yeah, there are lots of good reasons to segregate the data between the running instances. Plus (and I’m just assuming here) if its using the Windows 8 kernel deep down, there shouldn’t be much of a performance hit with hyper-v running multiple OS instances.
I don’t know how things are going inside Microsoft, but for developers who target MS technology outside of MS, the landscape for APIs/SDKs/languages is a huge mess.
Silverlight, WPF, XNA, Win32 all basically left for dead, and the future of DirectX has been left very unclear, all in the wake of Win RT, but nobody (outside of MS anyway) wants to write for Win RT because it isn’t backward compatible to versions prior to Windows 8 and nobody wants to limit their customer base to only Windows 8+ users.
Microsoft used to be great at handling this sort of framework transition, but they’ve screwed the pooch with it on an epic scale over the past few years.
I’m curious who at MS is responsible for this. MS used to be the most consumer and developer friendly company in the world, and now they’re one of the worst in comparative terms of where they were 10 years ago in the marketplace.
Teiman
1673
Theres a rumour on the internet that the xbone cpu has one huge temperature control problem that may forze Microsoft to half the speed of the micro. For more info, google neogaf yield problem xbox one.
Not buying it. I haven’t heard a peep about anything of the sort, from people who might actually have a clue about this.
Last-gen console launches all had weak inventory at the outset, and I can definitely believe that the same will be true this year. But a catastrophic problem like that? Seems really unlikely to me.
Edit: IIRC, you don’t own a console, but you sure love talking about them on the Internet!
Didn’t you know? It’s more interesting to complain about and poke fun at things you don’t own than discuss things you do!
Anyway, the thing Teiman was talking about was discussed on the previous page.
I think it’s one of these times when Microsoft tries to ape a competitor to crush them like with Netscape etc.
However this time they will fail again trying to catch Apple as they did with Google.
Microsoft needs to concentrate on themselves and innovate without jealously watching the others.
Teiman
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Its newsworthy!. Its probably the most interesting time of the console (especulation / rumours / mystery). The release day +1 this console will be superboring and I will feel much less inclined to talk about it. Maybe.
Its fun!, I had a good laugh with the name and the presentation of the console. I think this Adventure can deliver even more. Maybe Microsoft will now shot his other foot, and look at the laser with the remaining eye. takes popcorn
I like Yahtzee’s last point about Exclusives being the only reason for getting these consoles, and his image of the console makers holding the exclusives hostage. That’s how I currently feel about the Last of Us (I think that’s what it’s called? The latest Naughty Dog game?) getting such stellar reviews. After my PS3 broke, I feel no other reason to get a new one, so to get one just to play this one game seems so ridiculous. Especially with the knowledge that the next generation won’t have backward compatibility.
And hey, if this game really is interesting and worth experiencing, I’d still be open to the idea of getting a PS3 again just for one game. But unlike Tom, I didn’t love the first Uncharted, and unlike everyone else on the planet, I cared even less for Uncharted 2. So then the proposition gets even dicier. Certainly, I feel like I would have been no worse off not having experienced the Uncharted games, or missed out on anything significant in gaming, unlike if I’d skipped Ico or Shadow of the Colossus or Fable 2, or Prince of Persia 2008, Demon’s Souls, Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time, etc. Those were actually games worth experiencing, irrespective of cost.
Razgon
1680
You are not alone in not really liking those Uncharted games though :-)
I’m a lifelong gamer but I’m also an adult that works long hours. I’m also bored to tears by TV and most movies. Uncharted games appeal to that part of my brain that wants to veg out that would be in other people serviced by TV, but is interactive. I can replay the Uncharted games and still not be bored with them, while the thought of replaying Tomb Raider again has little appeal.
The bit in the video about consoles “holding games hostage” seemed to be specifically aimed at the Xbox One (and maybe PS4), which seems like it more or less will hold your games hostage, even the ones that aren’t exclusive.
I really hope it’s intended that way, anyway, because otherwise the concept is really stupid, and while I know Yahtzee’s videos aren’t entirely serious, it’s a mindset people actually have, and one that completely ignores the reality of the video game market.
Put another way, it’s incredibly depressing whenever I see people act like PC gaming would suddenly expand if consoles died off overnight, instead of a bunch of IPs vanishing from the face of the earth and a lot of publishers (largely in Japan) moving to mobile or leaving the market entirely.
I personally think you’re right, but I think the model most people envision is Sega’s, where they moved out of the hardware market, and then their games just showed up on all the platforms, including PCs. But not every company would work like that.
Plus even with Sega, a lot of their IPs really did disappear.
I sincerely hope not, they are already showing they could mess it up just as badly with Windows8 and what that signifies going forward (more control over your ability to use your computer, more control over devs making stuff that runs on the computer etc). I really hope they just keep blowing all their evil into consoles, i like my PC ‘free and open’ just as it is thanks very much.
