The XBOX One

[ElGuapo]

Anyone seen this making the rounds?

With the PRIZM news leaking last week the backlash on this seems to be huge. Microsoft is one of the cooperating companies, after all.

I find the while thing funny. Not funny enough to ever buy one. And I loved the 360!

[Ginger_Yellow]

I think this is mainly meant to be a clarification of the following bullet, which was that you can share all of your games with all of your family members, which is admittedly a nice feature.

It’s not a feature, it’s a concession which make the actual feature slightly less shitty. They’re seriously touting as a “feature” that other people can play your games on your own console? So generous!

[WarpRattler]

So are people looking forward to the Summer of Arcade this year for the 360?

Depends on if I’m really interested in the games they’re offering. I recently got $90 worth of Microsoft Points for $30 from a promo on the Microsoft Store Web site, so I’m set for a while, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to throw them at games I don’t want to spend $15 each on anyway, especially when there are somewhat older games like Triggerheart Exelica, Deathsmiles IIX, and Strania that haven’t gone on sale even once in the nearly two years I’ve owned a 360.

(That, by the way, doesn’t bode particularly well for smaller third-parties being very good at price drops on Xbox One. But then, there apparently aren’t going to be many of them on Xbox One!)

[Nephrinn]

New leaked info about the MS conference tomorrow (source), don’t know how legit it is so bear that in mind:

[ul]

[li] Microsoft is buying out publishers to not mention the PS4 versions of multi-platform titles, so you can assume if the presenter does not say “EXCLUSIVE TO XBOX ONE”, that it will also be on PS4.
[/li][li] More in depth DRM info at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy, they’re trying to just sweep it under the rug and hope people don’t remember.
[/li][li] Cloud power was designed as DRM. It was Microsoft’s idea, and they approached other publishers. EA and Ubisoft support, Activision slightly less so.
[/li][li] DRM plans are worse than what they have said.
[/li][li] Mirror’s Edge 2 at MS conference.
[/li][li] Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.
[/li][li] Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks. It is said that you still need Gold to play F2P games?
[/li][li] Paywall for Xbox One.
[/li][li] Dead Rising 3 as Xbox One exclusive. Exclusive DLC for another Capcom game.
[/li][li] No paywall for PS4, but it’s unconfirmed.
[/li][li] Sony is very tight on their DRM policies, so no DRM info.
[/li][/ul]

[cesare]

People get angry, and voice his opinions, and nothing is changed. Even if 2 million gamers get angry, and voice his opinions. The voices are unheard.
The opinion of one person, his voice, don’t matter, is unheard. The opinion of 2 millions, the same thing. Yes, the forum/plaza is filled with a loud sound for a while. But that dies.
Even on democracy, these demonstrations account for nothing.

To change something, people must create or join organizations. These organizations can be consumer groups, or political parties. A human is mortal, and must sleep, have his mind in something else, can can get distracted. But a organization can have a laser guided focus on a issue,… can remember, and can act. A organization can ask the people that matter about the issue, and make public who is against, and favour the group focus. Can have a strategy, this strategy can be secret. The only way to win, is trough a organization. Alone, we are mortal. As part of a organization we have strength.

God I hate gamers so much.

[Rachel_Brown]

A game on Steam stays in the market forever. You can still buy Rag Doll Kung Fu.

[size=999]HA HA HA HA HA HA*[/size=999]

200+ games no longer sold on Steam want to have a chat with you.

To those who are wondering, yes, if you have previously purchased any of the removed games, you do still have them in your account. It would be highly illegal for Valve to actually remove them from someone’s account due to that reason.

• I know there is no size tag allowed on these forums. My use of them -and the chosen size- is political.

That’s why so many people buy stuff on Steam that they NEVER play. That’s a game library that stays with you. You move to a different continent, buy a new PC, all those games move with you. Instantly. So if you buy a game you don’t even have the urge to play RIGHT NOW, because you know it’s there “forever”.

I won’t go into great detail, but moving to different regions, can screw around with your Steam account, with some titles that are region restricted. There aren’t a lot, but for someone with a large library, it could be, at best, an inconvenience.

[Teiman]

God I hate gamers so much.

I am curious what part of my post make you say that.

I hope Microsoft backpedal somewhat about the restrictive-ness of the DRM. That 24 grace period raised to 2 weeks. Make so a copy of a game can be sell and bough infinitely (not only 1).
Or not. Maybe it will be a good thing if this console fail.
Its possible that Microsoft is will not give more details about this.

And about games, we are going to get lots of “something 2”, “something 3”. The same games, with better textures and less loading screens. My care-of-metter is on “Meh” levels just now, but maybe is me: I already have a game machine has powerful this new consoles, and have used a digital service for many years (and is a great thing). This new consoles are basically …the PC I already own.
The great and cool things will be released in a few years, but not just now. It will take time for game devs to use the new found power.

[zx81-Amd64]

New leaked info about the MS conference tomorrow (source), don’t know how legit it is so bear that in mind:

[ul]
[li] Microsoft is buying out publishers to not mention the PS4 versions of multi-platform titles, so you can assume if the presenter does not say “EXCLUSIVE TO XBOX ONE”, that it will also be on PS4.[/li][li] More in depth DRM info at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy, they’re trying to just sweep it under the rug and hope people don’t remember.[/li][li] Cloud power was designed as DRM. It was Microsoft’s idea, and they approached other publishers. EA and Ubisoft support, Activision slightly less so.[/li][li] DRM plans are worse than what they have said.[/li][li] Mirror’s Edge 2 at MS conference.[/li][li] Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.[/li][li] Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks. It is said that you still need Gold to play F2P games?[/li][li] Paywall for Xbox One.[/li][li] Dead Rising 3 as Xbox One exclusive. Exclusive DLC for another Capcom game.[/li][li] No paywall for PS4, but it’s unconfirmed.[/li][li] Sony is very tight on their DRM policies, so no DRM info.[/li][/ul]

Much of that sounds like all the reasons i won’t want a console. Even in light of MS looking like the evil bad one this gen (if the rumours of the PS4 are correct), i still don’t see Sony or Nintendo doing well this time around. The market for these type of consoles and their type of games has just shrunk, which if you add increased dev costs ontop of that just means losses. Console gaming IS doomed.

[Alex_Hopkinson]

[ul]
[li] Microsoft is buying out publishers to not mention the PS4 versions of multi-platform titles, so you can assume if the presenter does not say “EXCLUSIVE TO XBOX ONE”, that it will also be on PS4.[/ul]

[/li]
That’s not news, is it? This has been happening for multiple E3s now on both the Sony and MS sides. I don’t know whether anyone has paid anyone (and I don’t care, to be honest) but they’ve been trotting out multi-platform games as headline items in their E3 presentations for what seems like ages now.

[Telefrog]

Today is going to be awesome! Let’s see how much MS can dodge!

[JD]

That’s not news, is it? This has been happening for multiple E3s now on both the Sony and MS sides.

Yup, quite the standard practice. Microsoft does it a bit more often than Sony because Sony is somewhat stronger on the first-party side of things. Nintendo pretty much never does it because they’re mostly focused on introducing their first-party. A prominent example of this would be Metal Gear Rising (way back before it got rebooted by Platinum) which was announced on Microsoft’s E3 press conference. Konami later would confirm PS3 and PC versions of the game.

[Murbella]

I can’t see them making another mirror’s edge game.

I liked the first one, but i didn’t think it sold well? It was certainly a niche title and not really fitting your typical xbox audience.

[Alstein]

The no paywall for PS4 is important if true. I think Sony might be able to get away with it, given how badly Microsoft has screwed up, but free PSN saved the PS3 when things were going terribly for it early on, and I think most PS3 folks tend to view free online play as a right.

I don’t know if this is more important than the DRM issues for most folks , but that’s the key issue for me. Over a console’s lifetime that is $300+, which isn’t chump change.

[JD]

I can’t see them making another mirror’s edge game.

Mirror’s Edge 2 was briefly listed at both, Amazon Germany and Amazon Italy, EA even briefly put up a page in their very own help/support section two weeks ago. ME2 totally will be announced.

[lordkosc]

So… $499.99

[Telefrog]

$499 + a Gold subscription.

AMAZING

[TurinTur]

So… $499.99

$660 for Yurop.

[Teiman]

You can re-buy Minecraft!

$500 is a bit high, specially now. I suppose are planning for a long transition from last-gen to next-gen.

[Gladguy]

They won’t see me on this platform for $499. And I have a Windows Phone 8 and a Surface RT…

[cesare]

I am curious what part of my post make you say that.

I hope Microsoft backpedal somewhat about the restrictive-ness of the DRM. That 24 grace period raised to 2 weeks. Make so a copy of a game can be sell and bough infinitely (not only 1).
Or not. Maybe it will be a good thing if this console fail.
Its possible that Microsoft is will not give more details about this.

And about games, we are going to get lots of “something 2”, “something 3”. The same games, with better textures and less loading screens. My care-of-metter is on “Meh” levels just now, but maybe is me: I already have a game machine has powerful this new consoles, and have used a digital service for many years (and is a great thing). This new consoles are basically …the PC I already own.
The great and cool things will be released in a few years, but not just now. It will take time for game devs to use the new found power.

The breathless, apocalyptic tone that gamers adopt when talking about a consumer product is eye-rollingly ridiculous. I don’t actually disagree with anything in this second post. “Meh” is a much more proportionate reaction than, “To your tents, O Israel!” ;)