Thea 2: The Shattering

So I play the Steam version for the most part. I have a GOG version too but I haven’t really launched it yet. Found out today, the GOG version is a patch or maybe even 2 behind the Steam version which is… weird. It also destroys the idea of cross store multiplayer when you need everyone on the same version and one store is behind the other…

Bleh, I didn’t know that. I’ve only got the GOG version. It does explain why I didn’t seem to notice any easier lightbringers on the first island when they said that had been made a bit easier though.

If they can’t keep up with patches I guess I’ll just have to use Steam. Might even just buy the game a second time, encourage the developers. I need more games like this.

edit: Yep, I checked and I was one patch behind Steam. Between that, lack of achievements on GOG (minor since I could look them up and at least know I did them, but still), and a discount on Steam due to a sale and owning the previous Thea there I went to Steam. I play enough I won’t mind unlocking things again.

I was talked into a third person tonight. I was like, oh okay. We’re already going slower than molasses so what’s one more. As soon as he joined the lobby, we noticed our build versions were off, and now looking through the GOG forums, they’re totally behind. I think it’s a couple, but I am not sure. He’s on .6 and we’re on 2.07 and the latest version of that. He was on 2.6 or something, seems like not the hotfixes but maybe a whole version back or something.

They numbered them in a weird but convenient way. I was on 2.0620.0917 or something like that, the new one was 2.07xx.xxxx. The first set of 4 numbers is actually the date they released the patch. My GOG version (0620) was the patch right before the current one up on Steam.

Not sure it’ll ever matter to me, but having the date in the build number seems like it might be convenient at some point for someone.

Oddly, the game remembered my difficulty settings when I started up Steam version even though I told GOG version to delete everything including user settings and saves. Meh, technology. Maybe there’s some kind of cloud thing with MuHa. Or GOG doesn’t delete very thoroughly.

If it’s cross platform or cross story, as they call it, it seems like the Profile which holds that stuff, should be… shared. I mean I could easily play either, but I sure as heck don’t want to lose the points I spent on my elf children!

Thank you for the data info, that makes the patches mean a lot more. So yeah GOG doesn’t have the July stuff, like the super useful tooltip info in battle now.

I had an event today that made me realize how impossible it’s ever going to be to see everything in this game.

I was wiping out the world for a change and after destroying a Night Demon town I received an event where someone I had lost to the Night Demons was returned to me, but changed.
I hadn’t lost anyone to the Night Demons so I didn’t actually get anyone added to the party, but what are the odds I ever actually lose someone to them and then get that event to fire again to get them back? And then goodness knows how many things they could change into!

So many things to see, so little time!
edit: learned I can’t put an empty line into a spoiler.

Way back in beta, my sister had one of her members die during their journey, and then they came back as a tortured soul or ghost or something…

We’ve only seen this once so far. There are a lot of events like that out there, rare, but unique. Thea 1 had some of that too.

First DLC Aug 1, smallish in scope, with a focus on village events and rituals. I think that’s fantastic, as those are the 2 areas I’ve most felt are lacking. (edit: should maybe mention that all DLCs that contain game content are apparently going to be free. So this will be free. I’m also hoping there’ll be a paid expansion at some point so I have more things to throw money at.)

It’s reached the point where if I have only a few people (and probably shouldn’t have settled yet) I hope to get thieves in my village early on after settling and then I just don’t go clear them out. They didn’t get anything good and I don’t think the event will trigger again until you’ve dealt with them and there are few enough village events that that one hits me 6-12 times a game.

If I have enough people to be running a scout around then obviously I take care of them. Gimme that xp!

GOG is now updated. We are playing our first three person game. I feel like we’ll be lucky to get 30 turns done this entire night. Hah. We’ll see how this goes.

Awesome! Do you have a link for more info?

I’m putzing around with the demo. I played Thea 1 a long time ago, but I feel pretty lost in this.

I got an event that has a combat option and an intelligence option. I looked at my party and the largest intelligence someone has is a 6. How do I know if that is good or bad for an intelligence event? Thanks.

Unfortunately the info came from their newsletter which I already deleted and I can’t find a link for a copy of it. The only other thing I remember is new human classes, which I believe was coming in this DLC (they were also talking about the next DLC slightly in the discord so hopefully I haven’t mixed up info, but I think that was just a “planned for late fall” statement).

I think the only way is trial and error. Fortunately the game lets you progress overall pretty quickly even via losses (as long as they weren’t so quick you accomplished nothing of significance).

An intelligence of 6 for a high is not great for a yellow challenge, but yellow challenges are also based on wisdom. It’s possible you also have summons that can be used (and the computer isn’t great with summons in auto-resolves).

It’s also dependent on your skills and the level of those skills. A lower wisdom or intelligence can still do alright in a mental challenge if you have a level 2 or 3 skill that does well in mental challenges like Reliable Argument or Showing Off.

Until you’re comfortable with it, and assuming you have a party that’s basically mediocre at everything, just pick whichever option is easier unless you’re making your choice based on roleplaying. A 3 physical challenge will be easier than a 4 mental challenge most of the time.

The other thing to note is whether the card colors are filled in. If the challenge is a yellow outline of a card the damage is healed after battle, whereas a filled in yellow card the damage stays. And there can still be negative consequences for a loss (and probably even for victory) in those temporary damage challenges.

Thanks for the info, especially about the filled in cards. I had no idea!

Intentionally started a game just to starve someone for the achievement since it looks like this will be the first game I ever 100%.

2 starts on difficult later I lose 2 people to starvation when I’m trying my best not to. Karma.

Also, who knew the scariest thing in the game were bees and boars? By the time I see one a zmey or a leshy is much less problematic!

Blue bees are truly troublesome if not outright lethal.

Build 0544 - 18th July

Thea 2: The Shattering - A’vee

  • Added mod support for story modules and localisation for story modules,
  • Added mod support for images,
  • Added the ability to recycle items on Resolve Event screen,
  • Bug reporting tool should work correctly once again.

Saves should be still fully compatible between this and the last version.

WARNING:

The next patch (on the 1st August) will include the first content update, balancing tweaks and other goodies. However, this required a lot of changes in the game’s various databases, so after the next patch, you will not be able to load any saved games created before it. We’ll keep the previous build on a beta branch as usual.

For those that might overlook the news

Thanks! Looking forward to the content update. :-)

Three People game, almost 130 turns in.

We encountered our first f word tonight in the game; orcs are kind of blunt. I had a promising m magic-user but some jealous witch turned him into a rat, so yeah, rat as a character that still counts as a magic user and has a pretty gnarly hit but low hp.

We know we will lose this save but so far, the profiles haven’t been lost so… still points.

Also 3 people in a battle is… hard. You almost never have enough points to use everyone you want to, but you also get a great variety.

We’ve also encountered more bugs, which we report… almost like the event are stepping on each other because you can be in event and be close enough to be pulled into another event and sometimes we just get… stuck. We’re still talking about only a few though.

Most annoying thing thus far… even as the host, which I assume means my machine is driving the game, they both see the end of battle before I do. They start getting all excited about loot and wins before I even see the battle animations complete.

Are they running the same animation speed? It’s super fast at fastest but I prefer to run it one step lower so I can see where I messed up.

Which I do on a very regular basis, lost last night to a stupid positioning error so my tank ended the fight with tons of shield and everyone else died.

My most common loss though comes from forgetting I’m not always last and the computer puts out one more character at the end that completely messes me up. I’ve really got to learn to watch that.

That’s a great question. I probably did slow the speed down when I first started playing so I could track what was going on. I feel like when it was two players, it was opposite until the last patch, like my sister would be behind. Now I am always last, no matter which one I meet up with or even if it is all three.

In my two player game, which I am not sure we will get back to after the patch, I have this really weak fairy/pixie guy… super fast, swarm, and ancient voice so he… destroys yellow attacks in the first round or two… just can clear a field almost by himself. My elf has something similar but not as fast, more life, and no swarm… not nearly as lethal. Learning these characters can make such a difference, and yeah one of my scoundrels has a hell of a shield because he’s strong but he lacks the life of a warrior… so he does great right up until he encounters the critters that hit shield and life at the same time.

It’s an easy mistake to make. The reverse can be troublesome too, holding off for that last card placement only to realize, they’re not placing it. If you have really strong support, that can be great, but I’ve held out combo characters before, thinking I would do something nifty in the end only to find out that last move was lame.

The great thing is, although it can change with updates, is the combo of cards can be learned. Like you’re rarely 100% sure what they have and how they will lay them but there are definitely common groups, so I know when not to stick my super quick but weak person in the back only to be slammed by some foe that can hit anywhere on the map.

I really want to know if my rat can have kids.