The coronation scene really took it over into “we are surrounded by a bunch of crazies” territory well.

I had a good belly laugh when Kirk was hooking up with green dancer and she pulled the knife on him. Kirk, Kirk, Kirk. Never stick it in crazy. Crazy might stick it in you!

“He’s my lover so I must kill him!”.

“He’s my lover so I must kill him!”.

Another favorite mimic while RPGing pen and paper style.

Dig how Spock just Dispassionately disposes of her.

I don’t find that distinction meaningful. If the aliens had taught him how to make pointy sticks in order to draw shapes in the dirt, and he then used the pointy stick to stab somebody, then he learned weaponmaking from the aliens.

I actually did like Marta better than Garth as a character. As Spock notes, ‘She seems to have worked out an infallible method for assuring permanent male fidelity.’

Yeah that little head turn at the end sells it. Psycho hose beast! I do not own A gun, let alone many guns, necessitating a rack.

Kirk has this trend of getting into fights with women he’s kissing.

I am LORD Guap! Ha ha. Yeah the ep is full of fun stuff like that.

All of those clips autoplay at the same time for me, when I open this thread.

Yeah, I really kind of hate that. Can you guys figure out how to make them stop?

I’m on an iPad but it’s not doing it for me.

they’re hyperlinks now

This is the most considerate, most self policing place on the internet. :)

And complaining-est. :)

You’ve obviously never been to Reddit.

I assure you the self-starting gifs were quite noisy. I appreciate your taking care of them.

I have no desire to purposely visit a circle or level of hell. I usually just find myself there somehow and scramble for an exit.

“I once heard that on some of your planets people believe they are descended from apes.”
“The actual theory is that all life-forms evolved from the lower levels to the more advanced stages.”

Time for another episode folks, and this week it’s “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”. I feel like, in its own way, this episode is probably as iconic as something like “City on the Edge of Forever” or “Space Seed”, though maybe not for the best reasons. It’s generally thought of as a “very special episode” about racism, and is a bit heavy-handed in its presentation. We see two opposing races locked into their ongoing conflict, so deep-seated and long-lived that they are incapable of even thinking of the other as human (so to speak). It’s not a bad episode as such, but my main compliant is that the crew of the Enterprise is pretty much completely passive, sitting back and just letting things play out. A couple of times someone asks if they should inform security about the rampaging half and half dudes running around the ship and Kirk goes, ‘Why? Where are they going to go?’ Considering they have the ability to reroute the Enterprise at will, I would think they bear a little closer attention but hey, I’m not captain of a starship.

The one exception I make is that awesome destruct sequence, where Kirk threatens to, and then actually sets off the destruct sequence of the Enterprise. It’s cool for a number of reasons, first being that they kept the structure of the sequence intact when Kirk set off the sequence again in The Search for Spock. Here are both of the destruct sequences:

Secondly, it’s worth wondering if Kirk was serious about destroying the Enterprise rather than let it be diverted from its mission. I imagine we all have our opinions, but I’ve always kind of thought that he might have been lying about the whole ‘after the countdown gets to 5, you can’t stop it’ thing, just to give himself a few seconds wiggle room. But maybe not.

Lastly, I had to add in that quote at the top because I loved that exchange, short as it is. One thing that constantly irritates me in the discussion about evolution is that people who don’t understand it at all continually make this exact claim, that man evolved from apes. When Spock made his correction, understated as ever, I think I could have kissed him. But he probably tastes like cigarettes.

“A bit heavy handed?” I’d say more like a sledgehammer to the forehead heavy handed.

One thing I hate about this episode is the montage at the end, with the aliens running against a backdrop of burning buildings. What a coincidence! They’ve been chasing each other for 10,000 years, they say, and manage to get home just as the entire planet is burning. Plus it is just cheesy footage.

But the episode does get bonus points for having Frank “The Riddler” Gorshin in it.

First of all, once again the mystery of what’s going on drives the first Act. There’s an erratic Starfleet shuttlecraft that has been missing with a life form on board who is suffocating. They bring it in with a tractor beam and the alien is revived by the doctor is sick bay. Here’s the alien that @Navaronegun has been showing us repeatedly in this thread and others with half face white and half a face black! So this is going to be an allegory on racism right?

Hmmmm, maybe. We’ll see. This alien is accused by Kirk of stealing a Starfleet shuttle and immediately gets his hackles up. He doesn’t like these kinds of accusations, he was permitted use of the craft by its owner, he claims. He’s not very forthcoming on who he is or what’s going on.

The next part is really mysterious. A ship shows up on sensors, but only on sensors. They can’t see anything out of there. I’ll skip this whole part, suffice it to say a new alien ends up on bridge and his ship disintegrates. This one has the opposite side of his face black and white. He’s been in pursuit of the other fellow for 50,000 years.

Ok, so let’s talk about this conflict between these two. The whites have been enslaved by the blacks for a long time. But are no longer slaves. But the white one claims that they are still treated poorly and is a revolutionary fighting in the name of equality and overthrowing the oppressors. The black one says they’ve been freed as slaves are ungrateful for this wonderful magnanimous gesture and don’t know how to behave properly in a free society and instead are bitter and troublemakers and revolutionaries.

So translate that into our world at the time of this episode, this is a black man saying, yeah, we’re free, but you still treat us terribly, and I’m going to continue to fight for my rights, even taking up arms and starting something like the Black Panthers. And the white guy in pursuit is saying know your place black man, you’re acting like the uncivilized brute you are. And what does Kirk say in all this? He doesn’t want to take sides. He wants to be a neutral arbiter. He wants to say, can’t we all just get along? Live and let live? The black man rightly calls him a naive idealist. He preaches his case to crew members. There’s a really great scene where Spock listens in through the door as the guy preaches his ideas about freedom from oppression to Chekov and Sulu and Uhura and others. And we just sit there as the audience, outside the door, eavesdropping.

At the end of the episode we reach their world. They haven’t been back in 50,000 years. Let me put that number in perspective. The farthest back in human history we can go back is maybe 4000 years? These two men have been gone for 50,000 years! A lot could have happened. We’ve almost annihilated ourselves here through nuclear war with the Soviets, probably fried ourselves through Climate change in much less time than that. But no, Kirk and even the two aliens think it’s the war between the whites and blacks that must be responsible. Kirk gets all houlier-than-thou about how they should have embraced peace.

So essentially this episode is telling the Black Panther-wanna be revolutionary, cool your heels son. Hate leads to nowhere good. Sure, you were a slave, and you’re not being treated well, but that doesn’t mean being upset and fermenting revolution is the answer. Maybe you should just calm down.

It’s quite the message. I’m not sure I can get behind it, and it would be fairly controversial today, I’d think. And I’m kind of surprised that Star Trek did an episode like this only 5 years after the civil rights act was passed. They’re telling black people, hey, you’re no longer slaves, and you got your rights, now cool your jets and embrace peace or we’ll all die in a fiery hellscape as shown in a hilarious montage of burning buildings.

I kind of love this episode you guys. It’s very ballsy and cheesy and it’s got a point of view. This was awesome.

Man, what a contrast: To watch this fascinating episode last night, and to watch a boring episode of Star Trek: Picard this morning.

I still can’t stop thinking about that scene where we eavesdrop from the other side of an open door on a revolutionary arguing about freedom, trying to grow the seed of those ideas. I still can’t believe this is considered “a very special episode”. Those are usually something incongruous with the rest of the show, but Star Trek handles issues like this all the time. It’s a testament to the show that his is NOT a very special episode.

Are you trying to shoo me from this thread? 😀

Relax, nothing worth talking about in that show yet. :P

Besides, you haven’t even shared your thoughts on this episode yet. What am I shooing you away from? You’re already out of the room!

It’s a fantastic episode, communicating the eventual outcome of unbridled hatred and endless recriminations being nursed above and beyond reconciliation and compromise. Is it ham-handed? Sure. And allegory is always somewhat straightjacketed by the idiosyncrasies of episodic, self-contained storytelling that was the method on network broadcast television at that time. But all allegory treads that fine line between a message well-delivered and ham-handedness every time. TOS succeeded by exploring ideas rather than fulminating about direct topics ripped from the headlines, in the hopes of getting 20-30 more viewers.

The tragedy of the episode is that it is handicapped by Season 3’s neglect by the network in its production values.