Weirdly, it doesn’t autoplay for me. (Chrome)

Or me (Safari on iOS)

hmmm sorry, didn’t know it did that, made it into a link now.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

“Turnabout Intruder”

Wow, another fantastic episode, except for the very end where it kind of goes off the rails. But if you ignore the last 3 minutes, this was a superb, exciting episode.

Others will have to help me out on this, but I think this is the third or fourth, maybe even the fifth time when Kirk has been replaced/changed in 3 seasons. This time he is lured to a planet with a distress call, while Spock and McCoy are given a distraction, he is left alone with an old flame from Starfleet Academy who is “sick”. As soon as they’re alone, she first laments that her gender has held her back while he became a Starfleet Captain. Then she springs into action when he gets near a device on the wall. They switch bodies, but before she can kill Kirk, the others get back. She soon returns to the Enterprise as Kirk and tries to take command.

I really loved Shatner’s acting here, acting different than his normal self in several small subtle ways, as well as big obvious ways. We seldom see this kind of deliberate subterfuge and sabotage on this show from fellow humans. These aren’t aliens they’re fighting but an ex-girlfriend. And throughout the episode, she makes some smart moves and some impulsive moves and some emotional moves. She’s clearly not fully mentally stable, but they still didn’t earn the last three minutes where she apparently breaks down for no reason after she had the situation well in hand.

I really enjoyed the various aspects of the crew suspecting something was wrong, and then Spock mind-melding with the real Kirk in a woman’s body and becoming such a full-throated advocate for him. I found that really touching. Last week we had an episode where Spock falls in love, and this week we have an episode where Spock stands up for his friend because he knows the truth, even though he has no proof. He declares things truthfully and logically and I found his trial testimony very moving.

In the end, the core of the show is not adventures with aliens and discovering new worlds, it’s the friendship of these three crewmembers and the strong leadership of Captain Kirk. So I feel like if the show is going to come to an abrupt end, emphasizing this core is a great way to leave the audience and say goodbye.

The other question I have on my mind is if this really was a meta-commentary on gender relations. Is she right in that she could be perfectly capable but not allowed to advance in Starfleet because she’s a woman? Star Trek Discovery and other Trek shows that explore this period of the Trek future would say no, but for the sake of this episode, it is a possibility. Of course, the episode takes the easy way out and makes her a hysterical crazy woman at the end, maybe because they didn’t know how to end the show otherwise as they were out of time.

I have to admit, I really liked this Kirk. There were portions of the episode where I found myself rooting for this Kirk. When they almost found her out, and she acted quickly and improvised, I found myself saying “Yes”, as she got out of the situation. Other times she didn’t do as well, making it really obvious to the others that something was wrong. In an alternate universe, she could have gotten away with it, and the rest of the show could have been this Kirk at the helm of the Enterprise. I’m writing the fantasy fiction in my head right now. Would she have developed a hatred of Klingons? Would she have been as mad at Khan? Would she have kicked Malcolm McDowell’s ass better than the real Kirk? We shall never know.

I started reading this thread from the beginning, and it is a hoot! Now I get some of the gifs that @Navaronegun was posting. It’s a shame @GregB and @Pod weren’t able to watch all 3 seasons with us. You guys were a hoot in Season 1. I hope you’re doing well and can maybe join us as we watch the potentially terrible 22 episodes of the Animated series starting next week.

Oh, we’re starting that next week?

Doing fine. Things got crazy at work and home. But I’ve been reading this thread and loving the commentary. Maybe I’ll jump back in with the animated series as I don’t have any memory of any of the episodes.

You’re only 3 episodes behind! There were points at which I was further behind than that. You’ll be caught up in no time! :)

As a bit of closure to this thread, I would like to share with you a few pieces of art I have on my living room wall courtesy of a local graphic designer. I’m sure you’ll all be able to figure out what you’re seeing.

Holy crap, that is unbelievable! Are those available to the public? Or at least, like, to me?

I’ve nearly bought this a couple of times:

Though as you can see it says currently unavailable, I may have missed my shot.

OK. OK, yeah. Deep breath. I’m gonna do it. I’m just going to put the last few episodes on, have them on while I work this afternoon, see if I can just wrap up the last few. I’ll try to post impressions.

If we’re moving on to the animated series directly, I propose starting a new thread. I like the idea of having the various series be somewhat self-contained. Easier to search, that sort of thing. Can we get a volunteer to think up a clever title and start a thread? I nominate @Rock8man!

Sorry, one last note: you guys mentioned that the animated series is available on Amazon Prime, but forgot to mention that you still need a CBS All Access subscription in order to actually view them, which I no longer have. I need to give this some thought.

edit: screw it, I’m resuming my subscription. Man I’m an easy mark.

  1. Kirk is split into good/evil halves (The Enemy Within)
  2. Evil Kirk from alternate universe (Mirror, Mirror)
  3. Sargon takes over Kirk (Return to Tomorrow)
  4. Garth takes Kirk’s form (Whom Gods Destroy)
  5. Kirk Freaky Friday’d (Turnabout Intruder)

I know you have an aversion to using gift codes for some reason, but in case you haven’t paid yet:

Once your current subscription period runs out (if it hasn’t already), you can use those two codes to get 2 free months. I’m still waiting for my current period to expire on April 23, which is also the last day the code works, so I might be able to do this.

For everyone else: this works for the commercial free version of CBS All Access.

For divedivedive: this also works for the version with commercials, since I know you enjoy watching commercials for some reason. :P

I can deal with 30 seconds of commercials every 10 minutes or so if it saves me $4 a month. If that makes me a filthy commercial lover, so be it. Jedi.

All right, I did it! I watched the last three episode, and I’ll encapsulate a few thoughts below:

The Savage Curtain - ok, I’ll admit it. I was wrong about this episode. I always thought it was the worst Trek had to offer, and I don’t feel that way anymore. It’s ok - mostly because of the bookends, I didn’t care for the middle much. But the beginning, when Spock and Kirk decide they need to go down to the obviously lethal planet and see what’s going on, McCoy and Scotty both take sides against this idea. It’s sensible enough too - if they’re wrong, they’re dead. But it wouldn’t be much of an episode if they just noped out of there so down they go. I kind of liked the end where Kirk tries to take the alien to task for killing people for their little roleplaying game, and the alien is all ‘whatever, we didn’t learn anything, go away’. I always liked these little morality/thought experiments of what a truly alien culture might be like. The middle part though was mostly a rehash of ‘Arena’, with the crew of the Enterprise forced to watch Kirk and Spock pretend to fight a bunch of weirdly made up people. Yawn.

All Our Yesterdays - yeah, this one is odd. I guess none of these folks have ever seen The Terminator, or at least aren’t worried much about being their own ancestor, like Philip J. Fry. I also don’t get why Spock reverts to some barbaric mentality but Kirk and McCoy don’t - I don’t imagine humans were terribly civilized 5,000 years ago either. But oh well. Oh and by the way - Mr Atoz? Mr A-to-Z? COME ON.

Turnabout Intruder - of the three, I found this one the most interesting. Yeah, there’s definitely an undertone of ‘woman, am I right?’ here, but I liked what it was doing with the characters. I also really liked what Shatner was doing with his performance. It was funny seeing him kick back and file his nails while discussing matters with McCoy.

And with that we’re done! I feel like I’ve accomplished something here, not too many shows I can say that I saw every episode front to back these days. This was fun, we’ll have to do it again sometime!

Spaaak, help me! Help me, Spaaaaaak!

Who were your favorite characters besides the Big 3, everyone?

Personally I would have liked to see more of Uhura. As translator she should have gone on more away missions. I liked the episode where she was more hands on problem solving, like the episode early on where she’s under the consoles rewiring stuff.

I also liked Scotty, he was fun.

On full rewatch Chekov is one of my least favorite now. But his character improves in the films I think.

I also loved the Romulan leader in Balance of Terror, the same guy who played Sarek later. He’s probably my favorite antagonist. Though I really liked the Gorn. He’s just classic Trek encapsulated for me.