To Ogre or not to Ogre!


#363

Played through the tutorial.

  • It’s OGRE. The UI is OK. I only have a couple of quibbles with it.
  • It’s also GEV. You get advanced terrain and overrun rules, if you want them. Ogres are murder machines with ram rules; they’re still murder machines with overrun rules. You never, ever want to overrun infantry entrenched in town hexes (double INF firepower and defense) unless it’s an Ogre doing the overrunning (double Ogre attack strength). GEVs in swamps are a Bad Idea.
  • Only the good parts of SHOCKWAVE, which means no friggin’ laser towers or cruise missiles. Which is is good. You get strongpoints.
  • Presentation is barebones as hell; functional enough, but I’m looking forward to being able to mod in painted units.
  • You get to make your own scenarios and maps. The official scenarios are included.

So, if you want OGRE/GEV on the PC, well, you’ve got it!


#364

Nice! Thanks!


#365

Yeah, the interface will take a bit of getting used to, otherwise what scharmers said. My first game was a Marginal Ogre Victory using the good old ‘hug the edge of the map’ cheese. Really close game. Two hexes from the egress and boom. I like it a lot.


#366

I asked for a list of units and got this from a dev.

tomasrawlings [developer] 38 minutes ago
I’ll see if I can do this from memory - it’s late and I’ve been up all day for the release…
Ogre Mk.1
Ogre Mk 3
Ogre Mk 5
Light Tank
Heavy Tank
Super Heavy Tank
GEVs (for course!)
Missile Tank
Train
Command Post
Mobile CP
Howitzer
Mobile Howitzer
Infantry
Marines

Note there are factions too - so many of the units differ in design between factions.

Hope that helps

Thanks (have I missed any?)

Edit: Anyone turn off the die rolls right away?


#367

Die rolls used to make me want to throw my C=64 through the window with Origin’s OGRE back in the day. I even wrote Origin a nasty missive (never sent) that stated, in no uncertain terms, that the Ogre in that game was a cheating whore when it came to die rolls :)

For such a dedicated grognard, I’ve always been shit with long streaks of bad rolls.


#368

Hmmm. Played my first game as an Ogre MkIII, and I facerolled the defenders. AI needs to learn how to knock out that first set of treads to get MP to 2 faster… or it had some really bad rolls. I’ll try again later.


#369

It looks like Ogre II, IV and VI are available in custom scenarios.


#370

Das Tactic doing a live of the game right now:


#371

Yikes, looks buggy with a really bad UI. Hard to figure out what was going on.


#372

Do backers get the game - I cannot remember and never received a key etc.


#373

Per earlier in the thread, nope. Which is too bad.


#374

I don’t know, man, to me it looks like the person playing is drunk or something, clicking next phase instead of firing ;)

Yes, the UI could do with confirmation for ending the turn if stuff is left to do and without the cutting to the overrun screen, but without having played the boardgame in along while it all felt pretty easy to understand.

It’s not pretty and a little cumbersome, but it feels usable enough. Honestly I feared worse.


#375

The UI is functional. There are a few places where it could be streamlined (like more RMB to “back out” of menus), but it’s fine. It’s also fine if you consider that the chances of this being ported to tablets is like 99.9%.


#376

Wow I did not know that. Bummer.

Is it any good?


#377

There’s a thread on Qt3 discussing it


#378

Any further thoughts now that you’ve beaten the campaign?


#379

There’s a campaign? OGRE, to me, is pretty much like a 4X: there might be something called a “campaign” in there, but I won’t play it. Ye olde games of classic MkIII/MkV vs. the defense and Atrocity are enough for me.

Right now I’m on such game overload (not helped by the fact I’m spending my time grinding away in a couple of games I should give up on)…


#380

The Paneuropeans live!


#381

And they will surely fail as well. This, on the other hand…


#382

Computer OGRE updated to 1.5.3 today.

Biggest for me is the addition of GEV maps and scenarios, single player right now only though. Wonder how well the AI plays a Raid/Atrocity scenario.

Oh yeah you Mac users can play it now.