Yeah, it stupid beyond the pale.

Basically you can’t investigate a president ever because you’d have to impeach them to do it.
Which… will never happen because what the hell?

All part of the plan to install a Republican autocrat and dismantle the democracy. When you see yourself as a shrinking minority of the popular vote, make sure that conservative while males can continue to hold the reins of power.

For a while I have been thinking that all the checks and balances in the world aren’t going to make it possible to create an 100% un-pickable lock. I mean without real power. Just a really really really hard to pick lock. Does that make sense? Is there legal theory along these lines? It’s depressing. There’s no safety. :(

There is no system of rules, laws or procedures that can endure without a minimum level of good faith buy in and participation in the system. Any set of rules can be overcome by a sufficient number of participants willing to fold, spindle and mutilate the system.

Systems do matter, A LOT, but by themselves they are just abstract. You need to have humans actively enforcing the rules, which necessarily involves clarifying them when vague and applying them to unexpected or novel cases.

On the issue of how systems matter, here is what I posted earlier today on another forum:

This issue, similar to the Merrick Garland debacle, falls into one of the US Constitution’s “blind spots” or “weak spots” - there were areas where the Framers either could not imagine the level of exploitation and disregard for democracy that the modern GOP exhibits, or the Framers just assumed that other Constitutional checks and balances would work.

In this case, the Framers’ assumptions were justified for the first 230 years of the republic: no US President came even close to the colossal “FU CONGRESS!!!” issued by the Trump admin this year, until Trump. There was just an assumption that the President would cooperate with Congress, backed up by literally centuries of actual cooperation. And then, even in the face of Trump’s obstruction, the House then exercised the other Constitutional check and balance the Framers envisioned: they impeached Trump for obstructing Congress. The McGahn subpoena was not one of the subpoenas that Trump was impeached for, but it is extremely similar. And yet the Senate completely disregarded any self respect for Congress, any respect for the rule of law, and any respect for civilized governance and let Trump say “FU CONGRESS!!!” with impunity.

So there’s a partial Constitution failure here, a failure of imagination and assumptions, but the dramatically greater failure is that the GOP is simply openly and blatantly operating in disregard of democracy, proper governance and centuries of precedent.

Context - I don’t recall if I’ve posted on this here or on QT3 but I’ve been expecting this result for months: the Constitution simply does not make a clear enough case for this eventuality to overcome GOP-Judge bias. Just as the Constitution does not expressly require the Senate to give a Supreme Court nominee a vote on the floor, the Constitution does not expressly give Congress the power to have the Judicial branch enforce subpoenas for Congress (outside the context of a suit to enforce an existing law). It’s one of those bizarro legal results: there’s really no question that Congress COULD pass a law that would give it the power to issue subpoenas enforceable by the Judidicial branch (for example, the current subpoenas for Trump’s tax returns are authorized by an existing law) but Congress has not expressly done so in a way that impact people like McGahn or Bolton or Mulvaney, and the Constitution does not lay out the “inherent subpoena power” in words a third grader could understand (that’s why it’s “inherent” not “express”). That weakness in the Constitution is what has allowed GOP Judge’s to rule the way they have.

Sure, there are Trump Judges so bad they would rule that way even IF the Constitution was more clear, but just as with Garland, the limits of Constitutional framing created the opening that the GOP is driving through.

It’s sickening to me, but not, sadly, unexpected.

The upshot of this is that a very strong and effective system of laws and enforcement can limit the speed and power of exploitative factions but not prevent it entirely. The bigger factor is the human factor, norms, enforcement, the actual application of checks and balances.

Specifically, in the current situation, the biggest problem in the US is the Senate majority and their worthless, feckless and indefensible kowtowing to Trump. Even with our less than perfect Constitution, a Senate willing to actually perform the duties envisioned by the Constitution would act as a very serious check on Trump. As it is…

Very well said, and pretty much echoes my concerns with the whole matter. A brick was taken out of the wall IMO.

Reform is going to force itself into the equation, willingly or not.

The honeymoon is over

I guess maybe her and George made up. Young love is so fickle. She deleted a number of tweets from the looks of it.

Yeah, them making up is probably why.

Might as well wait until after the Democratic convention, amirite?

100% this. Can’t have an October surprise in March/April.

Nice, not sure how much it will matter at this point though.

It will matter for precedent for the future.

It’ll be a great footnote in Cockroach Herodotus’ “Rise and Fall of the American Empire.”

Lovely.

They just dropped the charge against the company, not against Prigozhin himself. The reason apparently being the Russians were trying to use discovery to get info they could use to cause problems.