Kolbex
3299
What are you really asking me? What I’m doing is talking about what happened and frankly I think a lot of people are being hysterical, and not in the good way. Lot of suppositions being bandied about as fact, etc. Sure, kidnapping is a serious crime, but so is revolution! And we’re, or at least I am, not talking about “kidnapping” as in taking someone hostage in exchange for demands. If I was going to occupy a hostile place I’d want some (nonlethal!) way of putting my opponents out of action, too. My feeling is that by and large these people, drunk on their insane narrative of election theft and an extremely unearned feeling of righteousness expected they would show up, Trump would lead them to the capitol and the opposition would mostly just melt away before the power of their cause. My feeling is not that they expected to show up and execute the entirety of the democratic party, although I have no doubt that there were at least a few psychos who would have no real trouble doing that if the mood of the day supported it, which it does not seem to have done. People say stupid shit on the internet all the time, and this crowd attracts more than its fair share of blowhards. In all honesty it seems plain to me that too many people on both sides of this Civil War But This Time as Dumb as Possible watch too damned much television.
ShivaX
3300
Or that. Pretty sure they were TD fans so it’s all the same tree of evil.
Nesrie
3301
There’s always one, so times that by several regions.
Let the first person throw a stone who does not wear zip ties as a fashion accessory.
AndyMcL
3302
So, Trump has been “permanently suspended” by Twitter?..doesn’t suspension mean temporary?
Thanks for the follow @triggercut - now to see how long it takes before I see someone named “Chris Hornbostel” on my timeline and I’m like “who the heck is this guy?!” :)
Just some moron with a big mouth. Like everyone on Twitter. :D
“Chris Hornswaggle” was taken.
Scumbag’s PR rep John Baron twitter handle incoming to keep us apprised of dear leader’s musings
Sharpe
3307
Dude, when I quote the actual fucking federal statute with the actual fucking legal definition of the crime of kidnapping, you don’t get to redefine it the way you like. Zip-tying someone in the capital against their will IS the federal offense of kidnapping under the federal code.
“Suspension” is their term for everything, basically.
Permanent suspension means perma-ban.
Kolbex
3309
Who cares? That’s totally irrelevant. I’m not charging anyone with a crime, nor are you, and in any case it seems like the zip ties weren’t used. As soon as poeple saw them it was immediately “ISIS-style executions!” when it seems clear to me they could have much more (relatively, Jesus Christ) innocuous uses in the context of the day.
Sharpe
3310
I don’t think this word means what you think it means.
Dude’s an IT guy looking to tie up some cables, obvs.
With zipties? Monster! Use velcro for god’s sake.
ShivaX
3313
When discussing a crime it’s irrelevant what the crime means.
Okay then.
Thrag
3314
Such as? Did they bring restraints as they were planning a little light bondage play in the rotunda?
I mean, I know it’s a fast-moving thread, but there are dozens of screenshots from exactly the right-wing sites these people inhabit that are filled with calls for executions. The idea that anyone can believe none of them had that in mind is just mind-boggling to me.
After 9/11 happened it took a hot minute for folks jump to the most comforting conclusion they could think of - that our nation was never vulnerable and that it was something only we could have done to ourselves. Not a great take, but there you go.
After people died during an assault on the capitol building targeting the vice president and speaker of the house, people are going to latch on to some comforting lie to soften it for them. “Those people weren’t really going to do anything” is something I expect to be hearing a lot of. Not a great take, but there you go.
vyshka
3317
Did he post more shit today, or are they talking about his stuff from recently?