I’m not sure they even had enough police to hold off a bunch of rowdy tourists. January 6th was clearly going to be a hot button day - the failure to muster enough officers and have a coherent back up plan is inexcusable.
Maybe in addition to some of the cops being sympathetic to the cause, they never thought the leopards would actually eat their faces.
Ask yourself if the Governor and legislature of a swing state with a population that voted overwhelmingly for the Republican popular vote loser is going to go ahead and certify electors for the Democratic popular vote winner, if that state makes the difference in the EC. My guess is that in that situation the answer is no, they well meet and repeal the law and cast their ECs for the Republican that their citizens voted for.
Alstein
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I suspect that would be considered ex post facto and might not be allowed. Can’t change rules after an election.
They could do it before. Just look at the polls, see what’s coming and act to avoid it. I don’t really think you can rely on the integrity each state to make this thing work. I think it is quite likely that the PA legislature would have acted in this election, if that was enough to swing the election and if they had a governor who would go along.
Teiman
4252
We live in some volatiles times. Social networks are a enviroment perfect for rumours, sometimes it takes a single click to share a rumor to other 100k persons.
People don’t have access to reality, but a filtered version engineered by Google, Facebook or Twitter engineers. Bias are enforced in a infinite feedback loop. Worldviews are shaped by this. People is becoming extremist by this today, as we speak.
The right have a created a complete ecosystem where they feed on stupid people, that theres are a lot. With newspapers, websites and apps.
The right did not created the problem, but they are abusing it and they are creating a monster. I think we could already say the monster is beyond their control already. And they continue feeding it, now because they are scared of it.
The sane thing to do is to stop making this problem worse. Stop feeding the beast. Break the chains.
Social networks need to think hard about this and their responsability on this. A first step should be to limit the ability of users to FWD rumours. A second step could be to disable the like button, except for people on your friends list.
Then we have a HUGE problem that will not solve itself, and is deprogram many millions of people thats has been educated in rage and evil ideas. And for this, I can’t even begin to see a solution.
Trumpism is a frankenstein monster the Republican party have created and feed with hate and lies. And continue feeding.
Canuck
4253
I think the Venn diagram of people who stormed the Capitol and people who refuse to wear masks on planes is essentially a circle. I’m in favour of putting everyone wearing a MAGA hat on a no-fly list.
By all accounts, (and that makes the 4th account I’ve heard), when they hand out medals to the folks for their actions that day Congressman Crowe deserves one.
Also, from what I read, a lot of them were disruptive on flights out of DC and that earned them a slot on an airline’s no fly list.
kerzain
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Okay, it’s Monday. Rumors have been batted about all weekend on whether we’ll see an attempt to begin impeachment, or invoke the 25th, or both, or nothing, or something else entirely.
After all the back and forth on this stuff, did the good guys ever land on an actual gameplan for the day?
The weird part is the reference to the 14th amendment, section 3. That’s the section which says you can’t be a federal office holder if you were or have been an insurrectionist. It’s not at all clear what she means by referring to it, especially since she doesn’t refer to any action to be taken.
It could be aimed at the idea that Trump can’t be President if he has fomented insurrection; or it could be aimed at members of the House or the Senate who encouraged the insurrection or aided it. It could be both. But I don’t really see what the House can do to ‘invoke’ the 14th amendment absent any legal finding that someone was part of an insurrection. Does she mean they will file a court action to remove someone from some office on the grounds that they were an insurrectionist? She can’t mean they will vote to expel anyone, because they can vote to expel someone for any reason at all; they don’t need to invoke the 14th amendment.
JD
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I know there’s a bit of schadenfreude here to be mined, but at the same time I’m not sure if the press should give these accounts of self-pity any more airtime at this point. Trump did not do this to them. They did. It’s the same people who said they decided to not stand up to him about the election fraud claims end of last year because he’d be coming around soon and accept his loss. While everyone else knew he wouldn’t. Screw them.
meeper
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Similarly, I took this photo in Centre Block at Canada’s Parliament Hill last December. It’s one of several wounds the building took when a gunman stormed Parliament. This particular one is from the door frame leading into the Library of Parliament where the Sergeant-at-Arms used his firearm to neutralize the attacker.
The holes were intentionally left and although the building is undergoing substantial renovation right now, my understanding is that the wounds will be left unpatched.
Pretty sure she’s referring to members of congress with the referral to the 14th. Some of them are definitely guilty of sedition to some extent, and of course you have the insane Q adherents who are also seditionists.
I think that’s possible, but what I don’t get is what’s the action she is contemplating? I don’t think you can just say “you’re guilty of insurrection” and poof, the person evaporates. If she’s planning to try to expel someone, she doesn’t need the 14th amendment to do it, she needs a 2/3 majority vote. If she’s doing something else under the 14th amendment, what is she doing?
Just pack up your tacky gold plated crap and move to Mar A Lago already, please. Nobody gives a shit what you think:
This is a pretty fucking unbelievable passage from that statement:
I am disappointed and disheartened with what happened last week. I find it shameful that surrounding these tragic events there has been salacious gossip, unwarranted personal attacks, and false misleading accusations on me…
The bad thing about last week is what happened to meeeeee is a helluva take.
