Nesrie
5387
I know they’re doing that with their dead, turning on the one woman like she was some sort of plant. It’s hard even this lot could fashion together that kind of logic for hundreds of people they were right next to as the sieged the Capitol.
If that podcast that was listed earlier is even remotely true, it seems like they’re probably going to make examples of some of these most public ones. A whole bunch of these and their families and their friends are going to be dragged through what is often an inhumane system, and no matter how bad it is, no matter unfair or wrong they think it is, what they experience will probably still be better than what their black and brown fellow citizens endure.
I recall “why are you treating me like I’m black?” guy in one of the not-a-recent-no-fly videos. None* of these people will change their mind after being subjected to the CJ system.
*term of art for “no statistically significant number” :)
Yup, I agree. I just don’t think that it’s going to have any effect as far as changing the system goes. I think efforts in criminal justice reform would be better spent giving more humanity to the people suffering most, rather than making those who usually get the kid-glove treatment share in the misery equally, in some attempt to get everyone to realize how bad the system is. (Not that I think this is what you’re saying, to be clear.)
Popehat, who’s been quoted a lot in these threads, has as bunch of tweets to this effect, fwiw.
“The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.”
Nesrie
5392
Voluntary?
Oh right. I keep forgetting they only listen to the conspiracy parts of Social Media, not the ones that tell you to shut-up. The ones that keep telling these bastards how special they are.
Thrag
5393
Insurrection crime database:
https://extremism.gwu.edu/Capitol-Hill-Cases
As of the moment:
Teiman
5394
They are acustomed to “lol nothing matters”.
It never ceases to amaze me how much the fascists hate the anti-fascists.
I went with my parents in the late 70’s as a teenager, a keen student of military history I knew intellectually what had gone on in the camps but nothing prepared me for the reality of facing even some element of it in person. I remember walking out of the camp and immediately evaluating everyone I saw, assessing how old they were, doing the maths on their age and wondering “what did you know back then?”
“Yes, I tried to kill that guy, but I thought he was SOME OTHER GUY.”
I mean, as defenses go, that’s gotta be genius.
KevinC
5400
Ahhh, because that would have made it an okay thing to do. Good defense there, buddy!
“In my defense, I thought the guy I was trying to kill held strong anti-fascist views.”
Timex
5403
Didn’t that guy kill a cop with that fire extinguisher?
RichVR
5404
No, that was apparently a separate incident.
I wonder if the flagpole guy played Freedom Force and shouted “For Freedom!” as he beat that guy he thought was Antifa.
Teiman
5406
The anti-antifascist defense
He was probably thinking of Mel Gibson stabbing a guy to death with a flag in The Patriot (which came out a year after The Simpsons had Mel Gibson stab a guy to death with a flag in a parody of ultra-patriotic movies,* only to have Emmerich steal the gimmick and play it straight. Which shows that irony was dead even in 2000.)
*(rewatches clip after many years) In the Capitol. While blowing it up and killing Congress. This … this episode is going to get pulled from air, isn’t it?
