Trump supporters storm the Capitol Building

Houngan · 2021-01-15T02:44:57.393Z

See: Intelligence issue and Cultural issue.

YakAttack · 2021-01-15T02:45:51.879Z

Houngan:

I’m thinking it’s because mental health is an issue that needs a lot of enhanced attention, but it doesn’t apply to percentages of crowds. In that 2-5 thousand or whatever, there were certainly 10-20 people with mental health issues that might have been a contributing factor to them being there and attacking the seat of US government. The rest have a cultural issue, an intelligence issue, and a privilege issue.

I still think it’s a cocktail of all four issues.

Thrag · 2021-01-15T02:46:16.748Z

MikeOberly:

Chansley’s attorney says his client was only following the president’s invitation to march to the Capitol. “My client had heard the oft-repeated words of President Trump,” Al Watkins said in a press release.“The words and invitation of a president are supposed to mean something.”

Probably the worst argument one could possibly make because it asks Trump to basically admit he ordered the storming the Capitol.

Houngan · 2021-01-15T02:47:43.406Z

My point was that don’t ascribe what these jackholes were doing to legitimate mental health issues. They don’t get off that easy, and mental health shouldn’t be sullied by association.

Starflightdream · 2021-01-15T02:48:31.631Z

Eugene Goodman is a hero

Washington Post – 13 Jan 21

A Black officer faced down a mostly White mob at the Capitol. Meet Eugene...

The Army veteran lured rioters away from the Senate chambers, friends said.

He saved hundreds of lives, by playing it cool and diverting a mob.

MikeOberly · 2021-01-15T02:51:27.603Z

From that article, he wants to keep his head down as much as possible, and I don’t blame him. He is one of the heroes of the day, though, and should be recognized for it, if not today, then down the line.

DraiAC · 2021-01-15T02:54:29.721Z

YakAttack:

I still think it’s a cocktail of all four issues.

Maybe sit the next few plays out, The “maybe the white, racist, violent insurrectionists are mentally ill so easy on them” look is, I dunno, not a good one.

YakAttack · 2021-01-15T02:59:09.717Z

Most mentally ill are harmless, some aren’t *. Who’s going easy on them?

* when combined with the other issues Houngan listed

Leyla_Johnson · 2021-01-15T02:59:50.021Z

That picture made my day. Thank you for sharing

Woolen_Horde · 2021-01-15T03:01:18.405Z

Starflightdream:

Eugene Goodman is a hero

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/goodman-capitol-police-video/2021/01/13/08ab3eb6-546b-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

He saved hundreds of lives, by playing it cool and diverting a mob.

Business Insider

Lawmakers seek top award for hero police officer and Army veteran Eugene...

"Officer Eugene Goodman was the only thing standing between the mob and the United States Senate," a congressional leader said.

Leyla_Johnson · 2021-01-15T03:04:22.890Z

Actually two major Abrahamic religions do not consume pork
We wrote to our representative to consider Eugene Goodman as a hero and nominate him for a Medal of Honor. Though seeing how awards are being given lately, we might want to invent a new actual Medal of Honor.

Mr_Bismarck · 2021-01-15T03:12:33.458Z

MikeOberly:

he had served in the Marines for six years, rising to the rank of corporal

Literally the worst rank.

DraiAC · 2021-01-15T03:13:06.238Z

You said you think most people that stormed the Capitol are mentally ill.

I would love your thoughts on the mental state of folks responsible for any other number of horrid events to excuse any part of it with what you are implying.

Evil, particularly evil done largely by racist white men, should not be hand waived away with “but some might not be in a great mental state”. Full stop

YakAttack · 2021-01-15T03:15:22.900Z

DraiAC:

You said you think most people that stormed the Capitol are mentally ill.

Bullshit.

DraiAC · 2021-01-15T03:16:09.100Z

YakAttack:

I think a lot of them are mentally ill.

Please advise

Tortilla · 2021-01-15T03:19:14.503Z

YakAttack:

Bullshit.

Might want to re-read the thread before calling BS on someone who is just quoting you at you.

Tim_N · 2021-01-15T03:26:11.192Z

DraiAC:

Please advise

most =/= ‘a lot of’

KevinC · 2021-01-15T03:28:24.109Z

Tim_N:

most =/= ‘a lot of’

Okay, but “a lot of” indicates a significant number.

DraiAC · 2021-01-15T03:28:47.940Z

Tim_N:

most =/= ‘a lot of’

If we want to get pedantic, please tell us at what point “most” does not equal “a lot of”. I would like to know the exact percentage so as to not make a mistake in the future.

Tim_N · 2021-01-15T03:30:32.327Z

KevinC:

Okay, but “a lot of” indicates a significant number.

I actually don’t know what you guys are talking about or the context of any of this.

But when I think ‘most’ I think 80%+, and ‘a lot of’ can be anywhere from 10-90% depending on the size of the set and the uniqueness of the feature (e.g. even if Trump got 10% of the vote I would be justified in saying “there are a lot of Trump voters in USA”.

DraiAC:

I would like to know the exact percentage so as to not make a mistake in the future.

You’re welcome!