ShivaX
6334
Apparently Federal bail/jail time is different, but this seems ridiculous even for that.
KevinC
6335
This is what Romney’s office is sending out to constituents that contact them in regards to Jan 6th, the election, impeachment, etc.
I can’t stand Romney’s policies but I wish the GOP had more people like him.
Timex
6336
I mean, Romney was the only one to vote to impeach Trump before… it’s not like fomenting insurrection was gonna soften his stance on him.
KevinC
6337
Yeah, the communication is hardly surprising. I just appreciate that he’s telling that to a voter base that really doesn’t want to hear it.
I know Trump is never going to be convicted but I’m wondering if any other GOP senators will be with Romney this time around (assuming he votes to convict, which isn’t a foregone conclusion).
Alstein
6338
To be fair, someone only charged with misdameanors like she is would for other crimes likely get this permission. She’s probably not looking at more then 3 months in jail since she has no record, if that.
Personally, I think she should get 20 years, but the law is the law on this, and you have to treat these folks as common criminals. (That said, I would have charged every one with at least sedition)
Like you, I am one of those who respect Romney for his recent actions, while continuing to disagree with most of his politics.
I feel like he is trying to stake out the leadership of the non-Trump GOP. He’s old, but he’ll be Biden’s age in '24… as will Trump.
So, two old white guys duking it out for the future of the Republican party in the '24 primary? Stay tuned!
ShivaX
6340
Pretty much. And more power to him, but I think it’s a hopeless crusade, barring Trump making his own party and taking everyone with him.
Timex
6341
Trump’s party would be a collossal failure, electorally, because it’s entirely focused on grifting idiots out of their money, rather than getting them to vote (or effectively suppressing anyone else from voting).
If that someone else is white, then yeah, sure.
I’m telling you folks, get ready for disappointment if you’re looking for these people to get serious jail time. One or two really infamous rioters like the fur cape dude might get a few years, but I wager most will get off with very little punishment despite what the max sentences offer. A lot of them are white suburbanites with clean records. They’ll get wrist slaps.
The problem is insurrection should be more than a misdameanor. Oh, that’s right – they didn’t charge them with that.
It was a mob. The entire mob should be culpable for the damage and the loss of life incurred by the mob.
Even then the “non-Trump GOP” would be a powerless rump party. Trump is the GOP at this point, nearly everyone who isn’t a deranged cult member has fled for greener pastures.
Seems to me that it all depends on what the evidence showed they did, as individuals.
I remember four years ago some of my friends going to protest Trump’s inauguration, and a couple of them were shaking their heads at the most militant of the group who was all for trying to go over some fence past police. In my mind, this individual was certainly risking a hefty fine and some jail time, but I would have thought it fascist if she had been locked up for years. And that is the rough equivalent of what some of these people did.
But the ones who attacked police? Tried to get at the legislators (especially where they had recorded violent intentions)? That’s serious criminal shit. I’m going to be stunned and outraged if they are not tried on felony charges. I don’t buy into the general theory of long prison sentences, but they need felony convictions, and they need enough prison time to make an impression.
Alstein
6347
The right was saying the same about BLM protestors.
That said, I do believe the two situations are very different but if BLM protestors had done this , I’d want the book thrown at them as well. Assaulting Congress is never ok.
The one who tried to get at legistlators should be charged with everything under the sun ,and never let out of prison. Maybe if they show rehabilitation, and fascism dies down in America- you can give them a compassionate commutation then, but until then no mercy. They waged war against the United States in my eyes- they are traitors.
In normal circumstances, the non-violent ones I’d be ok with wrist-slapping them, but given what happened, I think we need to lock them up for a long time just to discourage future Trumpies from getting any ideas. Let them know if they do something they’re not getting their weekly McKarenland dinner where they get to abuse some poor food server and NFL Sunday package. Sedition with its 10 yr max sentence (and most likely 2-3) would be sufficient.
If they agreed to become informants I’d suspend that charge and give them the wristslap. One thing about right-wing types, they’re rats, they’ll always rat out their own to save their hide. They’re less loyal than the Crips.
Like I wrote, a couple will get some time. I just don’t think the majority will, even if they’re on social media clearly rioting in the Capitol.
Everyone who stepped into the building should do some jail time, even if it’s just a month in jail. And they need to be fined as well. Some need to do years in jail.
You can’t just give them a slap on the wrists because then they will do it again. And it will be better planned and organized the next time.
If it was BLM that had done this they’d all be looking at serious jail time.
Alstein
6350
They’d be lucky to get a trial TBH. Police would have opened fire.
I agree. If it had been a BLM rally and there were rumors they’d march on the Capitol builing, there would have been 10 times the police there and at a minimum a lot of broken heads.
vyshka
6352
She wasnt given permission. They corrected the story.
