This is what court filings by experienced attorneys with professional staff look like (maybe minus the “Earth is Round” snark, though I applaud it wholeheartedly). Note the lack of spelling and grammatical errors. Note the concise summary of what the Plaintiffs are alleging happened and the inclusion of facts and summaries that show how Defendant’s actions not only impacted Plaintiff’s business reputation but also directly generated gain for Defendants. Next will come sweeping discovery requests which will undoubtedly uncover hundreds of emails, texts and other communications between the involved parties that will have everyone wondering “how could these people be that stupid?!” and the answer of course is “because they believed they were untouchable”.
There is no way any attorney with any sense is going to want to defend this in court. Their only hope is to attempt to settle early, with a ton of cash and publicly broadcast apologies, before discovery leads to a cascade of evidence that can be used in dozens of new lawsuits against Trump, his administration, his family and the Fox News folks.
Menzo
6396
Correct, but the reality is that these people could be that stupid because they are that stupid. I mean they’re literal idiots who believe that are untouchable because they are idiots.
vyshka
6399
And now they apparently did go ahead and grant permission even though she has been indicted for a felony.
Matt_W
6400
I can’t bring myself to care about this. In a justice system that works, pre-trail detention would be rare and the terms of bail would be lenient. She’s meeting all of the conditions of her surety bond. If she fails to show for a hearing, she’ll be charged and fined. If she absconds to Mexico and never returns to the U.S., the Feds will seize her assets and freeze her accounts. Unless she’s smuggling stacks of cash under her shirt, there’s no way she’s a flight risk that way.
Nesrie
6401
I’m sure if she had been a black man, he would just fly home, brag about his crime, repeat multiple times they’d do it again and just leave the country and the cops would pat him on the back and say Hey Man, have a nice trip. Send pictures!
Menzo
6402
I have a sneaking suspicion that nobody will ever actually have money deducted from their checks for this, but I do appreciate that they’re pretending.
Alstein
6404
It’s automatic deduction and already authorized by law (the Speaker has this power)
We have such a nice forum here --and Tom is such an excellent patron for all out our views. I have spent 25 years practicing law considering everyone’s point of few. Trying to be reasonable. Trying to understand --maybe we should all just get think about it.
I had a stalker recently drive me from the internet and i had to literally go offline for 9 months.
So after seeing all that and having to go through those things and thinking “maybe we should consider” everyones point of view… I saw what happened on January 6… and i admit my heart grew cold, and my open -mindedness went out the window. And my tolerance to being patronized as a female, or a person, was shortened quite a bit.
So yeah after Jan 6? I may have developed a bit of an edge about it … worst 14 hours I have lived ever -watching those assholes storm my capitol building. Do you ever wonder why we hate trump so much you ingrates? let me tell you why – because he is anti-democratic, self glorifying, lying asshole and it looks just like 1936. And for some of us that are old enough to recall that … its scarey as hell.
Alstein
6406
Sorry to hear about what happened, hopefully you get justice and the stalker gets retribution divine or otherwise. Hopefully you can feel safe here.
I feel exactly as you do- which is why I’ve been so angry the past month. I think we’re underestimating how dirty we’re going to have to get rid of fascism in America. It’s probably going to require a total cultural and economic war against those who support it. The problem is how to do such a thing without getting addicted to it and becoming the monster you fight. (and I know such a thing is possible because of my own demons)
1/6 made me feel a lot more scared and angry than 9/11. 9/11 felt like the end of an era into a darker one (I knew the post Cold-War good times were over immediately) , but I knew we weren’t going to have that many more of those.
The one thing 1/6 made clear to me if that we were lucky to get another chance to stop this. We were really close to losing America’s ideals forever. If we mess up, we’re unlikely to get a 3rd chance- so we have to win. I think we’re actually more at threat now than we were during WWII or the Civil War.
The paradox of tolerance is real.
Nesrie
6407
There’s simply not a legitimate both sides POV for every issue. The media keeps trying to claim there is as well as what is left of one party. But hey, years of others protesting and marching points out around the point where I had enough… with pretty much the same group.
Nesrie
6410
2020 Is Not 2000 All Over Again
But the Trump election lawyers were looking to another lesson from 2000. In a Supreme Court opinion in Bush v. Gore, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist had argued that Florida court orders dictating recount procedures violated the constitutional clause that gives state legislatures the power to set the terms for selecting electors.
One lawyer knowledgeable about the planning, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said: “There was no plausible chance the court will take this up. It was really disgraceful to put this in front of justices of the Supreme Court.”
Even the Republican attorney general of Georgia, Chris Carr, said it was “constitutionally, legally and factually wrong.”
Heh, that freaking election. I really hope not to have to deal with another in 20 years.
Menzo
6411
Not to Debbie Downer you unnecessarily, but I’m pretty sure there will be Republican accusations of voter fraud in every single election from here on out.
It’s just too strong a clarion call for their base, which they need to win elections in the first place.
I’m pretty sure the lesson Republicans learned this time around wasn’t that you shouldn’t lie about the results and try to overturn an election, it was that you shouldn’t fail in your coup attempt. The winner decides who was wrong.
And this right here is why, even though I’m enormously grateful to have an actual president acting as an actual public servant, I’m having a hard time seeing it as anything other than a quaint detour on the way to autocracy. I’m having a hard time finding any sense of relief or escape from anxiety in the face of the political situation in which we find ourselves.
Nesrie
6413
I was thinking more along the lines of people taking to the streets to celebrate the ousting of a terrible president and then the terrible president’s voters (or non-voters as it were) just sieging the Capitol. That’s got to be unique right? I mean if I have to endure a hellish every 20 year election, can’t it be special each time or, you know, just not happen.
Menzo
6414
Well it was unique this year, but as I mentioned, my fear is that the lesson learned was that they didn’t go far enough. Various Republican state legislatures are already exploring options for putting the right to decide electors into their own hands, no matter what voters say.
The next coup attempt might be bloodless, but it’s coming.