I thought the second was established so that a slave rebellion could be out down, even if the army’s attention was diverted.
Some things I’ve read says this is not clearly the case, that the main reason for the right to keep and bear arms for militias was dealing with slave revolts. I’m not well enough read to judge how much each concern weighed into the decision.
Yes, this. Past courts have certainly upheld reasonable regulations and restrictions on guns. The current regime view is an aberration historically.
Alstein
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The folks from NC charged, half of them aren’t even registered to vote.
Of course not – 'cause it’s all rigged, man.
Responding to your post a bit late but this hit home for me a bit. I’m a pretty left leaning Democrat at this point but I’m also a Southern raised person who hunted, fished … blah blah “country boy.”
I have guns in the house and when my now wife first moved in I let her know. We’ve never discussed much beyond that.
Towards the end of the Trump presidency when things were getting insane my then girlfriend turned to me dead serious asking me to take her shooting so she could learn how to defend herself. That period of time was highly stressful, it almost made sense. I put her off then and at this point still, have not done that with her. She’s nearly forgotten it, I think.
What I think I’m trying to say is, don’t feel bad for those thoughts. They were driven by fear and the unknown going on. There’s nothing wrong with that. We do still have a right to own a gun. But for sure take a course on safety and read a book or two on the legality issues on them.
In a closed environment, such as a home or apartment, in the dead of night, I think my best defense is a good relationship with my neighbors and a heavy bat. Both serve me far better then a gun in a gun safe or any gun in general.
The statistics are just far to too oppressive. A gun in the home is far more likely to lead to a deadly outcome.
Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study | American Journal of Epidemiology | Oxford Academic.
If those numbers don’t bother you, then there isn’t much of a discussion to be had.
Skipper
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Somewhere in a long thread here I stated I doubt I could ever pull a gun on a person, period. This is due to a past incident where I DID pull a gun on someone who was a neighbor at the time. It’s a long story but the details are it was totally unnecessary and a misconstrued situation. It shook me to the core that I could have shot at, hurt or killed someone over a situation I didn’t understand at the time.
As for the guns in the home thing, I keep them locked, we have no kids and there is little danger of any of my now grown nieces or nephews coming over (as if they ever do) and finding the key and getting into them. At this point their burden will be on whomever has to do something with them when I’m gone. They aren’t relics, but I have both a rifle and a handgun willed to me by my father, and one by an uncle. I also own a couple myself. I should sell some of them but it doesn’t bother me they are locked up in an unused closet.
I appreciate the comment for safety but we’re good here. My only comment to Adam wasn’t to steer him to get one, but rather it’s okay that he felt unsafe and had thoughts outside of how he normally would feel or in handling situations. Stress and anxiety put us off our game. Having dark thoughts about things is something we need to recognize as just that, not a motivation to get a firearm but a motivation to handle that anxiety in any other way, first.
EDIT: and a mention that if he does so, do it the right way. Learn safe practices and understand all the issues of legally owning a gun entail, including if you ever use it.
Just two good old boys, never meanin’ no harm.
Beats all you ever saw, been in trouble with the law since the day they were born.
In my case, the military , and my day with the M-16, taught me I really didn’t like guns.
The last four years made me think I need to protect myself and others if necessary. That said, I have no delusions about patriot militia- if it ever gets to a civil war type scenario, we’d be copying Taliban tactics (or worse, ISIS), not war movies. It will be a lot bloodier, brutal and messier than folks imagine.
That might be a scenario worse than Trump.
“All that hate is gonna burn you up inside, boy.”
“It keeps me warm at night.”
Indeed, the day I never had to clean a gun again was the day I decided not to.
I feel like if it comes down to roaming gangs of thugs going house to house then a gun won’t help me too long. I will not survive without an organized society to support me.
Get outta my Mad Max fantasy with that boring realism.
MikeJ
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Jeff Goldberg not feeling great about the prospects:
At least from where I sit, the most important and most relevant truth of the riot is that it was not the culmination of the insurrection, but its prologue. If the Republican Party, as currently constituted, takes back the House and Senate next year (an outcome that is not only plausible but, history tells us, likely), and if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2024, it doesn’t seem likely that Congress will certify the victory. And then the four horsemen will most certainly ride.
But mainly I’m writing this newsletter because I’m very worried about the state of the American experiment. The Atlantic , for 164 years now, has made this experiment its chief concern, and we will be relentless in uncovering and examining threats to the American idea.
This article was way more interesting while my tired brain was reading the author as “Jeff Goldblum”. I’m sure it’s fine with the real author, but maybe they could have Jeff Goldblum do an audio version for me?
Exactly!
Your insurrectionists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should
Zylon
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Was that the day you quit your job at Gun Cleaners Я Us?
I’m so glad you mentioned this, @legowarrior.
The LA Times had a big earthquake preparation insert in last Sunday’s paper. The obligatory Things You Can Do To Prepare For An Earthquake article said that one of the best elements of an earthquake preparation kit is talking to your neighbors. So they know you’re there, so you can each help each other, and help others. And this is true of so many potential crises, including crime. Know your neighbors well enough to talk to them, and ideally well enough to depend on them for help.
I mean, yeah, guns are cool and all if you’re willing to play the odds that you’re more likely to get shot with your own gun than you are to prevent a crime. But it can’t beat being part of a community. The more tightly knit, the better.
-Tom
