US Government Shutdown Watch: 2018 Edition. More Bricks in the Wall?


#3105

Yeah, the GOP guys who are actually in districts along the border, like Hurd? They do NOT want this wall.


#3106

I did a bit of reading on captured-carbon techs and it’s not what I expected. I thought you know, put a pump, suck out carbon, plant trees, bury them, whatever. It’s much more effective to capture the carbon at points of emission. You know. Coal plants. So it’s only really going to be mitigate dirty techs. On the other hand, hurting Koch industry profits sounds good.


#3107

Resolution has been introduced, but they may not vote today. Pelosi is in Laredo, TX with Henry Cuellar; they’re doing their own wall tour today.


#3108

There are direct air capture carbon concepts, but they don’t really exist in practical forms yet.


#3109

Oh… so it’s Future Tech, which we’d only get to after a Science Victory. Gotcha.


#3110

Vote on Tuesday


#3111

Off topic but in the climate change thread someone (@Matt_W or @MikeJ, can’t remember which one) posted an article about a two person startup in Switzerland doing carbon capture. The piece went into great detail and one thing I learned is that you can get synthetic fuel from carbon capture, which I thought pretty wild. I can’t find that article now or the original post though


#3112

Yeah, they said on NPR this morning that the vote would happen sometime next week.


#3113

Yeah it is pretty wild that you can get fuel from the air, but, it is chemistry. Carbon is carbon.


#3114

We aren’t talking about carbon MINING, it isn’t as though carbon is hard to find. It’s about how much energy it contains or how much it costs to shift it to another molecule.


#3115

Presumably this synthetic fuel also creates CO2, or maybe CH4 (even worse!), when it is burned.


#3116

Yes, and in order to synthesize fuel from CO2 you need energy from another source.

But I think the principle is similar to biomass fuels. Use renewable energy to produce fuel from CO2 and then supply that fuel to applications that cannot easily be converted to renewable energy.


#3117

Happens every time a plant grows, so not that unusual. You need an energy input; for plants it is solar.


#3118

The principle of biomass fuel seems to be converting agricultural subsidies into energy.


#3119

Well, unfortunately that’s the reality.

In principle, principle and reality are the same. In reality they are not.


#3120

Darn that just sounds like hydrogen cells then.


#3121

House will vote today on a bill to rebuff the declaration of emergency under the NEA by President Trump.

Senate Democrats will then motion it to the floor for a vote in the Senate. Right now, Murkowski, Susan Collins, and Thom Tillis (of all people) sound like they’ll support the bill (and thus vote against the wall declaration.) Gardner, Isakson, Rand Paul and others have expressed skepticism. Will that translate into the fourth vote?

Narrator: “Probably not; these are Senate Republicans.”


#3122

Live shot of Rand Paul lamenting the fact that he had to vote in favor of massive executive overreach to seize the land from private citizens to build a useless static structure:


#3123

LOL. And this is pretty classic.


#3124

House passes the resolution.