US Government Shutdown Watch: 2018 Edition. More Bricks in the Wall?

#3205

Burrito party at my place; afterparty at his :)

#3206

I figured you would just stop at a Taco Bell on your way to visit the millions of graves awaiting you.

#3207

Psh didn’t you read the “what happened to you lately” thread? I’m addicted to extroversion dawg

#3208

I don’t know if it’ll lead to a more substantial ‘graveyard gift’ but an Armando burrito will be much better going down.

#3209

For a brief moment, this restores some hope that perhaps, the Republican will grow a pair and stop Trump from destroying the country.

But then I believed in Santa Claus for a long time.

#3210
#3211

The Pentagon announced it has diverted $1 billion to pay for Trump’s wall (well, I guess a tiny part of it).

The Pentagon notified Congress Monday night that it has authorized the transfer of $1 billion to begin new wall construction along the US-Mexico border, drawing immediate objections from Democratic lawmakers.

A Pentagon budget reprogramming notification sent to Capitol Hill on Monday and obtained by CNN indicates that up to $1 billion will go toward building 57 miles of fencing, improving roads and other measures on the southern border.

#3212

Nope. That’s illegal.

Also, I’d like to know where they got an extra billing dollars that apparently want already being allocated to something.

#3213

Examples have been published already, I thought here in this thread also. It’s all reallocation from other projects, like cancelled new construction and upgrades at bases.

#3214

Pretty sure the line item for the budget is not “military slush fund.”

Those dollars are allocated to specific things. If they don’t need them, give the money back to the people.

#3215

Haha, you funny.

#3216

Aside from the fact that this is illegal, it tells me two other things:

  • The military has more money than they need, so time to start cutting their budget;
  • No service member better suffer now for lack of anything, or we know the reason why they did.
#3217

This sets a pretty bad precedent for the military saying they are underfunded in the future. Them having an extra billion to give up isn’t going to help the next general who goes in front of congress asking for funds. Damn stupid move by them. I also assume many in the military know that they will regret this.

#3218

This would be true, if there were any party looking to cut military spending. Right now both parties are all about throwing as much money at defense spending as possible, it’s just one wants to increase domestic spending equally.

#3219

Didn’t defense spending decline under the last two Democratic administrations?

#3220

It went down under Clinton, certainly.

Under Obama the formal budget went down in one year by a little due to the “Sequestration” fiasco, but once you add the “Overseas Contingency Operations” funds into the equation, I believe total spending actually still increased by a bit.

#3221

I think it declined.

I generally agree that Dems are too wary of cutting military spending for political reasons, but I also think that in practice they end up cutting it. And I know the sequestration gets some credit for cutting it under Obama, but the sequestration was a direct consequence of Obama’s unwillingness to cave to Republican demands, so he deserves some credit for it.