VR - Is it really going to be a success? Or, thanks Time for starting a discussion!

I still get tracking loss problems every couple of days, but I’m pretty sure it’s just an issue with my room, reflective surfaces galore, spinning fans, crappy lighting etc. I can live with it until I can improve the lighting. The only other drama is the headset drops wifi quite frequently, the receiver obviously isn’t as good as the one in my laptop, but getting an extender very shortly should fix all that.

I’m pissed. Was really looking forward to hearing how you like your sims in VR vs. normal. Sorry Brian.

You are transmitting the wifi across the house for the quest 2?

If so, an extender has a high chance of significantly increasing latency, which would be terrible for VR purposes. You might be better off getting a powerline internet kit where the end node can transmit wifi.

I have this set which works really well for me carrying NBN100 internet down a concrete floor and extending fast wifi signal around the house:

I’ll be a bit pedantic here and suggest that Powerline (which I use too) will probably not improve latency. Powerline is really just WiFi with copper instead of air as the transmission medium.

Copper cables will carry signal through walls and concrete floors much better than air. Of course it depends on the house and specific setup, but it’s just my experience that I had significantly higher ping and lower download speeds on a Wifi Extender that powerline completely fixed.

I don’t have a Quest 2 (yet), just basing this on internet performance, is it a completely different equation when the router is transmitting data from your PC instead of the outside world?

I’ve read that Powerline has better latency, but clearly results vary. But my wifi extender has an ethernet connection, so if I plug it in directly it should be about the best option, right? I can use the 5 GHz band for the Quest, and ideally I’d run a second ethernet cable directly to the laptop. That’s probably about the best I’m going to get, either for Link or wireless, unless I’m overlooking something.

Do you mean you can plug the wifi extender to an ethernet port in the wall which connects to your router? If so, that will definitely be the best option.

When I hear wifi extender I think of those devices that take wifi from a router and then sends out its own wifi signal. That might be a wifi repeater, I am not up on the jargon.

I have a powerline but it doesn’t give out a good, constant signal, at all. I guess it depends on the electrical installation.

There’s a technical difference between a repeater, range extender and network extender (collectively called boosters), but I don’t understand it sufficiently to explain it. :) The main takeaway from reading about this earlier is that range extenders are similar to repeaters except you can hardwire them to the router via ethernet and effectively clone the wifi signal, whereas a wifi repeater can only rebroadcast it at the same strength it’s received. Or something.

So yes, my plan is to run a wire under the house (there’s a gap, it’s fairly easy) to plug into the range extender that I have, and hopefully get a full strength signal with minimal latency cost. This is tomorrow morning’s task. The main question is, how many snakes will I find under the house?

I recommend using a different SSID on the extender so you know which network you’re on. Most devices will automatically switch to the best network signal. I had an issue with my extender network with the same SSID where devices would somehow get stuck on the lowest signal source.

Oh is that why that happens? I had no idea, and have been living with it for some time. :) Thanks for the tip.

I took a class during my Master’s degree from one of the developers of the Powerline standard. It really borrows heavily from WiFi for its basic protocols–it’s OFDM, with many of the same data protection and packing features as WiFi–but with some modifications to both alleviate noise issues specific to power lines and take advantage of the presumably less crowded channel. I’m still not sure, though, how well it deals with phase jumping.

The power delivered by the utility comes in 3 phases (in most countries) delivered on 3 separate power lines, because it’s easy to generate with rotating machines like electrical turbine generators, and easy to transmit for technical reasons. Each phase contains rated line voltage relative to a central “neutral” point. In the United States, usually only two phases are actually brought to each house, with phases divided up to balance load between them. And then at your electrical panel, the two phases are divided up between the electrical loads in your home. Usually it’s every other breaker, but sometimes installers will put one phase on one side of the panel and the other phase on the other side. The phases are not actually electrically connected to each other. So you could definitely have the outlets in your living room on one phase and the outlets in your bedroom on another, electrically isolated from each other. In order to bridge the gap between those two, the Powerline uses the few circuits in your breaker box that utilize both phases. (Usually for big loads like an electrical dryer or central A/C unit.) It actually transmits across the phases through the air at those points, and that might cause some extra signal degradation and/or latency.

Looks super cool, narrator’s voice is too course though. Doesn’t blend well.

I thought the same, the protagonist voice felt… amateur?

Yes, absolutely.

I am - creatively…

I had to stop at the screaming! Who wants that in their ear?

Thanks for the explanation. Yes, occasionally we lose a phase here and then certain things stop working, but not others. Oddly, our fans spin at about 15% speed until it’s fixed. We do have a three-phase socket outside, contractors have used it a couple of times. Either way, sounds like powerline here would be a gamble anyway.


Yeah, this is gonna go great…

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