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Thanks to both you and @Anklebiter for the responses. I’d read about being able to use silicon grease to fix the sticking, but it also seemed to be only temporary. That said, I’m going to wishlist the set.

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On the sickness thing, note that the Oculus Go isn’t full 6DOF, so it doesn’t register all of your head’s movements, so it’s much more likely to screw with your inner ear than a PC headset or Quest, which more truly reflect your actual head movements.

If the Go wasn’t too bad, the Quest will probably be even better for you.

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Try easy experiences at first. A game where you stand in place (beat saber) or sit in a cockpit of something that is not in immediate need of wild maneuvering.

So don’t go doing dogfights right away. Just fly. Get used to it. Enjoy it. Get real good at basic stuff like take-off, gentle turns and flying straight & level and landing.

And as you get used to it fly harder. Keep flying until you can jank it and bank it and turn em and burn em like a motherfucker.

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Yep, you do not want to get VR sick. Fricking awful shit.

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Everspace is $5.99 on GOG for anyone who fancies a real flight sim :)

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Keep in mind, the Quest should be better (though ymmv) than the go for motion sickness, because the GO only has 3 degrees of freedom, so it reacts to head tilts only but not position. That means on the go if you move your head forward your body is expecting the view to move forward as well, and when it doesn’t that causes VR sickness.

The quest has 6 degrees of movement, meaning it also tracks your position in the real world and tries to match the 3d view to your real world positional movements. This should help a lot.

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3 posts up man :)

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Thanks for all the replies on motion sickness. I appreciate the advice! And I’m glad to hear the Quest might be easier to handle than the Go. I think I’ll get one and take baby steps to try it.

Also, I love the idea of a flight sim in 3D! Wow. Is that as awesome as it sounds?

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Hell yes it is! For me, this is nirvana, my happy place:

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Back in 2016 I was a former flight simmer. I was an ex-flight simmer. I used to fly a lot, but as falcon grew more decrepit and microprose became a distant memory all there seemed to be left was civvy sims and some products made by russian teams who make great simulators, but no games.

And then I got to try an oculus DK2. I tried it with DCS, a sim that is free to install and contains one map and two planes if you don’t spend on it. And it was… awesome. Just being in that cockpit felt so real. Shortly thereafter I bought a rift, a whole bunch of planes and maps and scenario packs to run with the planes.

I’m a born-again simmer. I left the genre back in the late 90s and found my love again with the rift. I would not fly without it. But with the rift, I don’t really care there isn’t much game in the same, as just flying is so great.

Eventually I found quite a lot of gamish challenge in learning to use combat aircraft well. DCS modules are meticulous, and there’s something deeply satisfying (to me) in booting up a cold&dark jet, taxiing it to the runway, taking off, fly it to the bombing range, then aim, tweak and drop a laser guided bomb right at the bullseye, fly back, land and shut it down.

The part of my soul that wears an anorak and big spectacles sings when that jet gets parked back neatly on the flight line, turn all the bits and gizmo’s off and the whining down of the engines.

And then there’s carrier aviation, bad weather aviation, old aircraft, aerial combat (dogfights!) and helicopters.

But for the newly fledged VR pilot, learn to do takeoff, gentle turns and landing first. It is safe when it comes to the VR sickness (unless you stall and spin and crash!, rip the headset off when that happens!) and while you get used to VR, you also learn how to fly.

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Has anyone managed to map Oculus Home button onto a HOTAS button?

I’d love to be able to double tap HOTAS button to go into Passthrough.

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Is that a real thing for motion sickness? Maybe I should get a pair for my wife.

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I think this is a bit misleading. It’s technically accurate, but it ignores the fact that you’re far more likely to encounter games with lateral movement and other nausea inducing motion than on the Go, where games tend to put you in a fixed position and teleport you around, or in cockpits.

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FYI, I just ordered a Rift S from the microsoft store. I clicked the “I’m a student button” and it said “congrats you are verified” (even though I’m not a student) so I got a 10% discount. Total came to $384 after FL sales tax, including free 3-5 day shipping.

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Maybe but I’ve heard stories of even web browser in GO making people sick just from head movement not being taken into account.

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Great post. My story is similar. After killing my 10 billionth foozle and many years of gaming I found myself lurking on Q23 more than playing games. Trying to revitalize enthusiasm I picked up an Oculus. It was OK, but didn’t exactly bring back the enjoyment I’ve had for so long.

Then I picked up DCS Hornet and that gaming joy has come back with a vengeance. It inspired me to build a campaign, to try to bring some game to the sim, so that more people would try it. It also inspired me to start posting, and maybe encourage others in the same boat to give it a go.

I still buy other games mostly through a Humble subscription. Last night I installed Call of Duty 4 Black Ops and Destiny 2. I swear I would have eaten these up in my past, and from a technical perspective, I really appreciate what they accomplish. I just felt the same “meh” though unfortunately. Maybe one day that will turn around, but in the meantime I’m thrilled with what VR and sims have returned to me.

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Are there any good places to track the side-loading / non-store stuff for the Quest? I know the device is brand new, and it’ll take some time for people to figure things out, but I’d still love to have a central source to look at for any cool new things being developed for it.

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At this point, I’m relying on reddit for most of that stuff, which is piecemeal and unorganized. It’s also less than a week since the device was released, so it might take some time for things to organize.

FWIW, the only thing I’ve sideloaded so far is ALVR. And I’m considering getting Moonlight so I can play 2D PC games in VR without having to pay for Virtual Desktop or something similar. Theoretically, anything that works on the Oculus Go will work on the Quest as well (though controller input might be tricky), but extracting apk’s to sideload requires an emulator and extraction tool.

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Is there any sort of Plex Client? Maybe just a browser would work fine?

Or put another way, can the browser’s full screen mode be a theater mode of sorts?

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You know, I haven’t tried watching video in the default browser on the Quest, but people report it works well. Many WebVR sites even work using it. At this point, though, there are a couple of issues:

  1. The only available environment is the home one; the default one that shows up when you launch the Quest.
  2. If you switch to full-screen video, it resets the horizon so that it’s parallel to the floor, i.e. you can’t tilt the screen to be above your eye level.

I suspect both of these problems will be ironed out at some point. People report that sideloading Firefox Reality is a good workaround.

I just found this:

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Here’s a good review of the Reverb. Sim focused with an emphasis on Elite Dangerous. More and more I’m sure this is going to be my next headset.