VR - Is it really going to be a success? Or, thanks Time for starting a discussion!

[Ginger_Yellow]

Ah, so you pay more to make it fit properly. Good stuff Facebook.

[Ginger_Yellow]

So much guff about smart glasses. Apparently they want people to pay for the privilege of becoming Street View drivers.

[Alistair]

Stopped watching. Bleh.

New Quest is interesting though. How much power are they talking about? Could it run Alyx…?

[Ginger_Yellow]

UploadVR:

All the content launching on Quest 2 next month will support the original device too, but some of my demos, like Warhammer 40K: Battle Sisters, were only available on the new headset and definitely seemed like graphical powerhouses relative to the hardware. We’re still not talking anything that would rival even 2016 PC VR games and some of that power is going to go towards making apps run at a higher framerate, though.

Similar to the PS4 and PS4 Pro or Xbox One and Xbox One X, though, some games will have graphical differences based on which headset you’re using, though we’re not sure which titles support this feature just yet. Facebook also isn’t ruling out exclusive titles for Quest 2 later into its life cycle as games get more ambitious, and it feels like that will be where we really see what the XR2 can do, but we probably won’t see them for a little while yet.

[Ginger_Yellow]

“AAA” AssCreed and Splinter Cell titles as Oculus exclusives.

[Alistair]

90 Hz…

[Ginger_Yellow]

@Alistair

90 Hz…

Kind of…

Another big feature is support for 90Hz over Quest’s 72Hz standard, but we can’t really talk about that yet. Why? Because it only works in the home area and Oculus Browser, much like when hand-tracking first launched. Support for games and apps will be rolling out in the coming months as developers get to grips with the new hardware (which is the next topic on the agenda).

[Ginger_Yellow]

Ooh, sequel to The Climb.

[Alistair]

Man, Christmas comes round and Jonny gets his VR headset or his XBox Series S. In my day you got a shilling and a new piece of coal.

[Ginger_Yellow]

Wait, they’re doing a Jurassic Park game and it’s cel shaded?

[Ginger_Yellow]

Puzzle Bobble VR, lolwut?

[Alistair]

“Infinite Office.”

At least she made the joke herself.

[Ginger_Yellow]

Very downbeat review from Ars Technica.

Review: We do not recommend the $299 Oculus Quest 2 as your next VR system

[Alistair]

I must admit, when I’ve had jobs where I’ve been able to introduce copy & paste, it has been pretty exciting.

[TurinTur]

So… confirmed:

https://www.oculus.com/blog/introducing-oculus-quest-2-the-next-generation-of-all-in-one-vr-gaming/

With a higher resolution panel and the ability to reach a higher refresh rate than Rift S, all in a lighter form factor and at a lower cost, Quest 2 brings a leveled-up PC VR gaming experience to enthusiasts. We’ve worked hard to improve Oculus Link’s performance, stability, and third-party cable compatibility since its launch in November 2019. After months of testing and community feedback, Oculus Link will exit beta this fall with improved fidelity and support for 90 Hz coming soon. And next year, we’ll debut a unified system experience that taps directly into the Quest user interface, so you’ll find your PC games and Quest games all in the same spot.

We’re going to focus on standalone VR headsets moving forward. We’ll no longer pursue PC-only hardware, with sales of Rift S ending in 2021. That said, the Rift Platform isn’t going anywhere. In fact, we’ve seen significant growth in PC VR via Oculus Link, and the Rift Platform will continue to grow while offering high-end PC VR experiences like Lone Echo II and Medal of Honor: Above and Beyond well into the future.

Sales of the original Quest will also end as we bring Quest 2 to retailers worldwide. But that doesn’t mean we’ll stop supporting the original Quest. We’ll continue improving Quest by listening to the people who made its success possible—players from the VR community. We’ll be delivering more new features and gaming experiences moving forward, so stay tuned!

Our goal with the original Quest was to bring standalone VR to as many people as possible. We’re doubling down on that goal with Quest 2. It combines the performance gamers want with the flexibility people need, all at a price significantly lower than similarly featured headsets on the market. Quest 2 is more than just the next step in all-in-one VR. It represents years of feedback from developers, gaming enthusiasts, and the broader VR community, and we couldn’t be more grateful for this ongoing support.

/salutes Rift S owners

[TurinTur]

-FB partnership with Ray-ban to do their AR glasses. It seems they are working with a dev model called Project Aria (somewhat soon?) , with limited use by FB employees on the campus.

-90hz mode confirmed for Quest 1 with Link , next year

-Quest 2: all things known were true, 50% more pixels, xr2, 6gb ram, $300. 10% less weight. no hz data!
-October 13 release date, preorders today

-fitness tracking integrated

-Quest 1 $ data: 35 titles > $1M revenue. $15M on Quest content. Onwards did $1M in 4 days.

-Accessories: elite strap, elite strap with battery, facial interface accessory

-Messenger in Quest. I want whatsapp…
-New avatars.
-challenges system. Like a mini tourney with a specified goal. Devs can do them too.

-Prices for Quest 2 in Europe. 349€ for the device. Accs:
[timg]https://i.imgur.com/xesLnaS.png[/timg]

-Resolution: 1832x1920. It’s a bit less of the true resolution o the screen as there is a ‘buffer’ to accommodate the ipd.
-Refresh: 90hz but for now things will default at 72hz? Quest 1 games will work at 72hz. There will be a beta option to enable 90ghz at least in home and browser, and later it will be up to devs if develop games for 90hz or 72hz. source: Tested
edit: confirmed here https://www.oculus.com/blog/introducing-oculus-quest-2-the-next-generation-of-all-in-one-vr-gaming/

-Beat saber MP mode.
-Ubisoft games confirmed, but not shown. Boo.
-Myst vr announced, only a brief CG video.
-Jurassic Park, seems Alien Isolation but with velociraptors and celshased.
-Rez Infinite
-Sniper Elite vR
-anime crap
-Monaco 2 I think I heard?
-MoH AnB on Steam too, crossplay
-The Climb 2

• Warhammer 40,000 Battle Sister (FPS)

Infinite Office: keyboard tracking, multi page browser, fixing windows on 3d space persistently (that’s cool)

-Software updates
https://www.oculus.com/blog/oculus-quest-platform-updates-oculus-link-exits-beta-introducing-oculus-move-and-more/
-Fit tracker as commented above
-Better casting, casting to browser,Record option for ‘watchers’,Spectator mode (audience will be able to move the camera)

-Unified ui for pc and Quest games :
And next year, we’ll debut a unified system experience that taps directly into the Quest user interface, so you’ll find your PC games and Quest games all in the same spot.

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@TurinTur

It seems they will release some dev model called Project Aria (somewhat soon?) so people can start work on what software to do, how to solve UI problems etc.

From the stream, it didn’t sound like there would be any third party dev model any time soon.

[TurinTur]

@Ginger_Yellow

@TurinTur

It seems they will release some dev model called Project Aria (somewhat soon?) so people can start work on what software to do, how to solve UI problems etc.

From the stream, it didn’t sound like there would be any third party dev model any time soon.

Yep, I wrote that while seeing it live and didn’t understand it well at first. But I still hadn’t time to edit.

[Ginger_Yellow]

I have to say, between the Facebook account bullshit and the various negatives raised in the reviews (it seems the Elite strap at a minimum is basically a necessity, and even the battery strap if you’re doing sustained gaming), I’m leaning more to the G2 at this point. Some of those Oculus exclusives sound like they could be good, and I like the idea of having a truly wireless option, but in practice almost all my VR gaming is going to be seated, at my PC.

How does Link work with the Quest battery? Does it draw enough power to keep it going indefinitely?

[Mellified]

With the official cable the Quest can run indefinitely. If you aren’t using a USB-C with USB-PD port you may not get enough energy to keep it powered though.