Walking Dead on AMC

Stepsongrapes · 2012-11-28T17:19:50.000Z

Coca Cola Zero:

Perhaps. I could nitpick all day.

Why would anyone linger even for a second near non-moving walker, as they do about once an episode here? Zombies are like a walking Category A pathogen! Treat them as such! Jesus!

Mark Zuckerberg from Zombieland would be extremely disappointed in these people and so am I.

The lingering I agree with you on. That said, it’s clearly a standard horror trope, just like the teleporter failing when necessary in Trek, so you just got to go with it.

My biggest nitpick for the last episode was cabin boy. Unless I’m mistaken, he was completely clueless about the ZA. How the hell has he gone several months without knowing shit about the ZA, wondering what happened with the world, etc.?! That and droopy gun prop that I mentioned above.

gameoverman · 2012-11-28T20:48:51.000Z

The cabin guy I didn’t have an issue with because I took him to be crazy. The kind of crazy that Rick might have dealt with a lot on the street as a cop. The kind of crazy that could quietly lay there in that cabin with the smell bad enough for Rick’s group to comment on.

He wasn’t clueless because he was doing exactly what it would take for him to survive there: cover his human scent, cover his visibility, and make no noise, all so the walkers can’t detect him.

My guess on his background is someone capable, but counting on an organized human counterattack on the zombies. When that never happened, and instead the human world collapsed, he went nuts. That would explain his apparent respect for authority, assuming that authority could produce a badge.

Stepsongrapes · 2012-11-28T21:05:52.000Z

I just re-watched the scene. His response to seeing the group and the comment on walkers was “I’ll call the cops.”

He thinks the phones still work. He thinks that the intruders will be intimidated by the threat of cops. He doesn’t comprehend the significance of walkers knocking on his cabin.

I don’t see how he’s a delusional, but competent survivor, that has managed to live in the world of walkers for a several months. The writers give us no evidence of his competence or knowing acts of survival over the last few months (hell, his door was unlocked). The smell is his dead and rotting dog. If anything, it seems like he’s Rip van Winkle.

corsair · 2012-11-28T21:21:19.000Z

He was just there as an advertising link - fresh (meat) is better!

I’m still laughing over that one…

gameoverman · 2012-11-28T21:35:39.000Z

Stepsongrapes:

I just re-watched the scene. His response to seeing the group and the comment on walkers was “I’ll call the cops.”

He thinks the phones still work. He thinks that the intruders will be intimidated by the threat of cops. He doesn’t comprehend the significance of walkers knocking on his cabin… If anything, it seems like he’s Rip van Winkle.

Do you think he’s called ANYONE since the ZA? Have we seen anyone so delusional as to think they were talking on the phone in the post apocalypse?

Competent survivor? Since he’s survived with no apparent help I’d say yes, that’s sort of the definition of the term. I suppose he could have been camping out at that cabin for the last year and had no contact with anyone, not even walkers, so that Rick’s group is literally the first he’s seen since he went off the grid, but that seems very far fetched.

Many people in this show, Herschel for instance, have snapped mentally. Herschel was well aware of what was going on, he simply couldn’t deal with it. This cabin guy I think was the same way. I believe he knew what was going on, with the walkers and all, but he was too far gone to focus on that. That’s why I think the idea of calling the cops was appealing to him, it was a coping mechanism to believe there still were cops in the world. It was a coping mechanism to act as if he could still make a phone call.

Stepsongrapes · 2012-11-28T23:10:33.000Z

gameoverman:

Do you think he’s called ANYONE since the ZA? Have we seen anyone so delusional as to think they were talking on the phone in the post apocalypse?

Competent survivor? Since he’s survived with no apparent help I’d say yes, that’s sort of the definition of the term. I suppose he could have been camping out at that cabin for the last year and had no contact with anyone, not even walkers, so that Rick’s group is literally the first he’s seen since he went off the grid, but that seems very far fetched.

Many people in this show, Herschel for instance, have snapped mentally. Herschel was well aware of what was going on, he simply couldn’t deal with it. This cabin guy I think was the same way. I believe he knew what was going on, with the walkers and all, but he was too far gone to focus on that. That’s why I think the idea of calling the cops was appealing to him, it was a coping mechanism to believe there still were cops in the world. It was a coping mechanism to act as if he could still make a phone call.

Your rationalizing everything from the mere fact of his existence in the scene. The episode does nothing to give the viewer material to support those rationalizations and in fact is incongruent with those rationalizations. If the writers want you to believe deranged incompetence, he shouldn’t act 100% like a normal guy in a pre-ZA world. Hence, my complaint about it being poorly written. Unlike a Michone or an Andrea, or a Herschel, there’s no development around him- just his mere overly-convenient , too-normal existence: that’s too artificial.

There was an exchange in this thread about how poorly written/directed the scene was post-Lori’s death. This, to me, was the equivalent for this episode. Too contrived, too poorly set up. Convenient cabin (with open door). Convenient, foolish sleeping guy to garishly sacrifice to the zombies.

tomchick · 2012-11-29T02:27:09.000Z

Stepsongrapes:

Convenient, foolish sleeping guy to garishly sacrifice to the zombies.

It was in case you forgot how ruthless Rick was with the prisoners. You know, just to remind you.

All I can say is that next episode better have a really expensive shoot out action sequence involving non-droopy guns, Michael Rooker’s bayonet hand, several dozen zombies eating several dozen extras, and David Morrissey’s departure from the cast. I also wouldn’t mind if Laurie Holden was briefly pantsless again.

 -Tom

Ender · 2012-11-29T13:29:05.000Z

Tom Chick:

I also wouldn’t mind if Laurie Holden was briefly pantsless again.
 -Tom

That was artfully shot. Glad her undies have held together so well in the post ZA world.

WarrenM · 2012-11-29T13:32:29.000Z

Don’t get started on that. We can talk about Rick’s immaculately trimmed beard all day.

tomchick · 2012-11-29T16:14:13.000Z

WarrenM:

We can talk about Rick’s immaculately trimmed beard all day.

I’m kind of partial to Laurie Holden, but whatever lights your fire, Warren. No one here will judge you.

 -Tom

rowe33 · 2012-11-29T17:36:17.000Z

Tom Chick:

I’m kind of partial to Laurie Holden, but whatever lights your fire, Warren. No one here will judge you.
 -Tom

At first I thought you were really looking forward to an action sequence with “Michael Rooker’s bayonet hard” due to misreading an ‘n’ as an ‘r’. But either way, no judging!

corsair · 2012-11-29T20:22:33.000Z

rowe33:

At first I thought you were really looking forward to an action sequence with “Michael Rooker’s bayonet hard” due to misreading an ‘n’ as an ‘r’. But either way, no judging!

Rooker’s hard bayonet? Morrissey’ non-droopy parts? Zombies eating each other out? Did Walking Dead move to the Playboy channel?

Tin_Wisdom · 2012-11-30T09:23:02.000Z

There are a large subset of perverts that would watch the hell out of such a show.

Not me though. No. Heh. Surely not.

When would it air, do you think?

Super_D · 2012-11-30T10:55:52.000Z

Tin Wisdom:

There are a large subset of perverts that would watch the hell out of such a show.

You mean Walking Head?

WarrenM · 2012-11-30T11:11:35.000Z

I have to say that the one thing I don’t like about this show isn’t in the show at all. It’s when they break to commercials and some ass hatstarts shouting loudly from the screen about what just happened. FFS … I can’t get to the fast forward button quick enough sometimes and I have to listen to whatever unfunny thing he’s saying. So lame.

hepcat · 2012-11-30T12:09:54.000Z

Friend: I’ve saved a bullet for you…just so you know.
Me: Why’s that?
Friend: So you don’t have to…you know…become one of THEM.
Me: Nah, I’m good.
Friend: What??
Me: I’ll take my chances being undead. How do you know it’s awful? Maybe I’ll just stumble around all day thinking about sporting events.
Friend: But my god, you’ll eat the living!
Me: Rather do that then have you shoot me in the forehead. Look, I’m just saying that I’m willing to explore my options.

corsair · 2012-11-30T13:34:02.000Z

hepcat:

Friend: I’ve saved a bullet for you…just so you know.
Me: Why’s that?
Friend: So you don’t have to…you know…become one of THEM.
Me: Nah, I’m good.
Friend: What??
Me: I’ll take my chances being undead. How do you know it’s awful? Maybe I’ll just stumble around all day thinking about sporting events.
Friend: But my god, you’ll eat the living!
Me: Rather do that then have you shoot me in the forehead. Look, I’m just saying that I’m willing to explore my options.

HepZombie: I’m hungry, I’m hungry, I’m hungry (repeat ad nauseum until…) Oooo, fresh and finger-licking good Kentucky Fried Survivalist…wait…no barbecue sauce?!? Where’s that bullet when I need it?

The Bulls suck without Rose - when’s he getting back? The Bulls suck without Rose - when’s he getting back…

DrDel · 2012-12-02T10:20:47.000Z

Half-point-season-finale-tonight!

I am getting ready for a whole lot o’ nothing.

SlainteMhath · 2012-12-02T19:15:03.000Z

I had no idea that was it until February until the end of the episode. Bastards!

Dave_Markell · 2012-12-02T21:03:42.000Z

Black male character quota remains 1.0. Otherwise, a decent episode, although the smoke grenades were far too effective. Yes, I realize this was done to keep Merle and Darryl from premature discovery of one another, but still, a bit too contrived for my tastes.